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[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 146 points 1 year ago

It was nonsense from the start. Grusch had no evidence, not so much as a blurry photo or shaky video. All he had was what someone told him. So someone supposedly told him that not only did the U.S. have multiple crashed UFOs and bodies, but that one of them crashed in Mussolini's Italy and the Pope helped the U.S. smuggle it out.

And people ate that shit up. And they're still saying the big revelation is right around the corner, as it has been my entire life.

[-] BeardyGrumps@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago

As expected. Many thanks for the update...

[-] lildictator@feddit.nl -3 points 1 year ago

If it was nonsense, why did the Inspector General find his allegations "credible and urgent", and forwarded them to Congress, where Grusch and other whistleblowers deposed under oath? And why have several Congressional committees announced that public hearings will be held in the upcoming months?

Let's not make the mistake of thinking that just because evidence has not been made available to us it means there is none. We don't get to learn the most highly classified weaponry in the Pentagon, why would non-human technology be released any more widely? If you want more information to be made public, go write a letter to your elected officials telling them this matters to you.

[-] Deestan@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

"Credible and urgent" referred to his fear of reprisals after claiming whistle blower status. The Inspector General rightly considers this completely isolated from the legitimacy of the leaked information itself.

[-] lildictator@feddit.nl 1 points 1 year ago

My understanding is that it referred to his allegations that some programs are being funded without the necessary Congressional oversight.

Either way, the matter of fact is that Congress is addressing these concerns regarding oversight, not the reprisals suffered by this particular person. See the recently proposed regulation by Gallagher.

[-] melonpunk@lemmy.world 58 points 1 year ago

It was a "trust me bro" claim that the media blindly ate up.

[-] Mewtwo@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago

media

You mean dumbasses that read garbage tabloids.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Vanity Fair discusses why respected members of the media didn't publish this so-called bombshell of a story: https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2023/06/ufo-report-media

[-] Mewtwo@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago

It lacked any real facts and proof and the major outlets needed to confirm parts with their sources.

This feels like nothing. I would not be surprised the military keeps dangling these ufo stories to hide the fact they caught a Russian or Chinese advanced aircraft.

[-] irkli@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago

The U stands for UNIDENTIFIED. Unidentified means just that. It's not wink wink for alien spacecraft.

[-] NeoLikesLemmy@lemmy.fmhy.ml 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Why waste our time with boring facts when we already have our opinions?

;-)

[-] Madbrad200@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago

credible

it was never credible lol

[-] TwoGems@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
[-] Hubi@feddit.de 13 points 1 year ago

It was obviously bs from the first second, but how do alt right fantasies play into this? I thought the whole UFO thing was more like old-school conspiracy theories.

[-] TwoGems@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
[-] Hubi@feddit.de 4 points 1 year ago

Ah, that makes sense. Thanks.

[-] lildictator@feddit.nl 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It is very much moving forward. Senator Marco Rubio has stated that he takes David Grusch's testimony seriously. Rubio is a member of the Gang of Eight, the group of people in Congress who receive the most sensitive US intelligence.

Rubio has stated that Grusch is not the only whistleblower who has come forward and testified to Congress. According to him, over the last two years there have been multiple other highly-ranked officials sharing with Congress their first-hand knowledge of secret programs to reverse-engineer non-human technology, corroborating Grusch's claims.

Senator Gillibrand and Rep. Burchett have publicly announced that in the coming months they intend to hold public hearings to hear the evidence put forth by Grusch and other UFO whistleblowers in various committees in Congress.

If you find the subject intriguing and would like to learn more, I can recommend the podcast Need to Know by Ross Coulthart and Bryce Zabel. Other good sources of information that have also been proven reliable in the past few years are The Debrief and Liberation Times.

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