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[-] RangerJosie@lemmy.world 41 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Yeah. We fuckin noticed.

[-] selokichtli@lemmy.ml 20 points 1 month ago

Helped to massacre Palestinians.

[-] NeuronautML@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 month ago

Guy is forced to abdicate from a second term when his opponent is Donald Trump, a guy who can't go two weeks without saying something so ridiculous, it's not even funny to laugh at anymore. Kind of like a joke you've repeated so many times, you don't even exhale through your nose anymore. And he struts around like he's a big shot.

I can only aspire to be either this delusional or confident. Either way, not a worry in the world.

[-] Sam_Bass@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

not exactly something to be proud of lil joe

[-] nkat2112@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago

That's not the flex he thinks it is.

Hopefully Harris can do better.

[-] sweetpotato@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 month ago

What exactly are you on about? Isn't she the current vice president that has expressed her unwavering support for Israel countless times already? What could possibly change with her?

[-] TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 month ago

Harris, as in of the Biden-Harris administration, is complicit and toes the exact same line.

Don't support genocide candidates.

[-] Reddfugee42@lemmy.world -3 points 1 month ago

Grown-ups now you can choose heavy genocide Trump or kind of genocide Harris. Grown-ups know you have to pick one.

[-] anas@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Trump can be infinitely worse, but do not downplay the atrocities going on right now.

(not American)

[-] Reddfugee42@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago
[-] anas@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

or kind of genocide Harris.

This implies that either she is planning on taking a different approach than Biden (of which I haven’t seen any indication), or you don’t think the current atrocities are a genocide.

(again, I’m not American)

[-] Reddfugee42@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago
[-] anas@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago
  1. Linking news from today doesn’t change the fact that I wasn’t wrong 9 days ago.
  2. I’ll wait and see what they do, I don’t believe what they say. This is coming two days after they burned refugees alive in their tents.
[-] Reddfugee42@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

You were wrong 9 days ago because this is not the first thing they've done to try and stop Israel. The fact that you have to lie proves my point.

[-] anas@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

They’ve done nothing to stop them, evidenced by the fact that the genocide is still ongoing. They sanctioned exactly two settlers, and delayed 1 (one) arms shipment. They’re threatening the ICC not to issue the arrest warrant for bibi. And now they have actual boots on the ground.

EDIT: spamming the putin gif doesn’t make anyone you disagree with a russian bot

[-] TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 month ago

Biden-Harris genocide is probably more harmful as it gets liberals to consent to it, both domestically and through more competent foreign policy maneuvers. Though even then they are pushing beyond what the NatSec should want.

Though really, I don't think I should need to say or repeat this: you should oppose genocide. Attempting to lesser evil it is disgusting and, of course, very poor logic.

[-] lapping6596@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

What about Ukraine? Trump will hand over everyone in that country while speeding up climate change with "drill baby drill". As the world becomes less livable, more wars and genocide will fallow.

[-] TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago

What about Ukraine?

First, under no circumstances should you support genocide. Stop trying to excuse genocide. Actually fight against it. You know that question, "what would you have done against the Holocaust?" Right now it would be, "fret about which Hitler to support and make excuses about how Jewish people would be killed anyways".

Anyways.

The Biden-Harris administration's policies on Ukraine are exacting maximum pain on the people of Ukraine, using them as a tool to hurt Russia. At every step of the way, only maximum pressure on Russia has been their consideration. So either accept that the most likely outcome of Trump there would be a deescalation or acknowledge that the motivation here is bloodlust.

Trump will hand over everyone in that country

Ukraine already lost. Its future has been mortgaged to western financial interests and it will not be regaining its lost territories. The people therr have been shelled by Kyiv's far right forces (the ones with Nazi tattoos) for a decade, they aren't sympathetic to Kyiv even if some territory were, under wild circumstances, returned. It was never plausible for Ukraine to win militarily. All of liberals' talk about Ukraine is fantasy children's tales that have nothing to do with reality.

Dragging out Ukraine is just forcing more death and disposession on the Ukrainian people.

while speeding up climate change with "drill baby drill".

The Biden-Harris administration has set record levels of US fossil fuel production and is an exporter of oil and natural gas. Harris has publicly promised to support fracking, a tool that, when novel, Obama used as an international weapon to crash oil prices and hit targets of US empire - Venezuela, Russia, Iran.

Both parties are against the continued survival of humanity re: climate change, one of them just pretends otherwise, throwing money at a domestic renewables industry that largely just routes it to finance and tech rather than produxtive capacity. Oh, and continuing Trump's trade war on China, which is currently threatening to end large swaths of the US solar industry as installations of new solar panels are waaaaay backed up.

As the world becomes less livable, more wars and genocide will fallow.

So get off your butt and start fighting the good fight! Cheerleading genocidal frackers definitely isn't that.

[-] Reddfugee42@lemmy.world -2 points 1 month ago

Taking a little lesser choice isn't cheering. Never complain about anyone else's logic ever again.

[-] TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago

Pushing a vote for a genocider is cheerleading. Your role is on the sidelines saying, "go team!" The feigned reluctance doesn't change the role.

Speaking of "ever again", have you ever heard the phrase, "never again"?

[-] Reddfugee42@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago
[-] TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago

"Hitler promises to improve concentration camp conditions".

What point do you think you are making?

[-] Reddfugee42@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago

Thanks for Godwin-ing the threat to prove my point

[-] TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago

Some things are actually comparable to Nazis, you know. Like genocide and concentration camps.

I'll take this to mean you have no response.

[-] Reddfugee42@lemmy.world -2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Adults realize that one is lesser and you can choose lesser or abdicate your choice. Buck up and grow up kiddo

[-] sudoer777@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The genocide is happening under Democratic control through the Biden/Harris administration and the biggest crackdowns on protests are happening in blue states like California and New York possibly even more so than red states like Texas. There is no "kind of" about Harris's stance on genocide.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 month ago

Walz supports the "Greater Israel" project, the Harris admin would/will be worse than Biden.

[-] Reddfugee42@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago
[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago

Gotcha, genocide is fine if you send some petty aid to the population you are obliterating.

[-] Reddfugee42@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago

If you're trying to stop them from dying, it's literally the opposite of genocide, but do go on Putin puppet

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 month ago

They are giving the IDF the tools it uses to commit genocide and encouraging invasion into Lebanon. Petty aid doesn't mean it isn't genocide.

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