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Biden says he and Kamala Harris are 'singing from the same song sheet' — as she tries distancing herself (www.foxnews.com)

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Now, she was a major player in everything we've done, including passage of legislation which we were told we could never pass. And so she's been, and her, her staff is interlocked with mine in terms of all the things we're doing,

For everyone that said Harris was only VP and had no voice in Gaza and none of it was her decision.

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[-] auk@slrpnk.net 46 points 1 week ago

We're doing Fox News, now? Huh.

Anticolonialist, how'd you run across this story? Just reading up on Fox News like all the anticolonialists like to do, and you decided to share this story when you ran across it? Or some other way?

[-] henfredemars@infosec.pub 10 points 1 week ago

Nah, it's not a legit news source.

[-] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

According to Fox "News" court testimony, it's not a legitimate news source.

[-] henfredemars@infosec.pub 4 points 1 week ago

Correct. It is self admitted I believe in the court records that only a fool would take anything said by them as fact.

[+] anticolonialist@lemmy.world -43 points 1 week ago

The source doesn't change the facts. Harris has been 100% involved in Biden administration decisions. Which includes arming Israel and killing Palestinians, Lebanese, Syrians, and now Iranians.

[-] Tolookah@discuss.tchncs.de 32 points 1 week ago

I mean, specifically this source does change the facts.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fox_News_controversies

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago

The source doesn’t change the facts

The sky is blue

Faux news could report that as saying when the sun goes away it's because God is punishing us for eating meat on Wednesday after 2:00pm.

The sky is still blue, but all the other shit doesn't magically also come true.

That's why no one will read faux news. Even in the rare case a headline is true, the article will completely misrepresent it.

It's common among all the far right news networks

[-] Theprogressivist@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

You read Fox News, and you're a supposed communist?

[-] auk@slrpnk.net 8 points 1 week ago

Yes, yes. That wasn't the question, though.

Where did you find this story? Do you usually read Fox News, and this headline jumped out at you and you had to spread the word? Did someone email it to you? Do you have a Google News alert set up, to send you stories involving Kamala Harris, so you can post them if they're bad, and further your mission of anticolonialism? Did you see it on Facebook when one of your Republican relatives posted it? How did you happen to come across this Fox News story?

[-] Myxomatosis@lemmy.world 31 points 1 week ago

Fox Propaganda Network: for fascists, by fascists.

[-] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 16 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Fox News should have been crippled severely by the lawsuit about voting machines.

The guys should have never settled, and that would have dragged the lich Murdock into the light of day to be exposed. Fucking nothing but lies.

I was hearted to hear two old dudes (70s at least) talking today at lunch with the wife about how the lies by Vance and then Trump have put the town of Springfield under the grip of terrorism.

It's getting through to more and more people how horrible they are.

Oh, and Fox News was on above the bar, of course.

Fucking tabloid junk is all it is.

[-] tonytins@pawb.social 14 points 1 week ago

Suddenly everything is Harris' fault now that she is running and Biden isn't.

[+] anticolonialist@lemmy.world -14 points 1 week ago

If she was an equal in decision making, then yes, she is at fault.

[-] rigatti@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Should I vote for Trump instead of Kamala now?

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world -1 points 1 week ago

And as always, anyone with the slightest misgivings about literal genocide must be a trumpist, and there can be no possible other explanation.

[-] rigatti@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

What's the point in posting this other than to push for Trump?

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

You really can't imagine being upset about genocide, can you?

[-] rigatti@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

You really can't imagine answering a question, can you? I am upset about the ongoing genocide and the entire world's governments giving Israel a free genocide pass. However, I am a realist, and I see that we have two options for president. One is super pro-genocide, and the other could maybe possibly be blamed for not stepping up to stop it. Hmm, should I go around on the internet bashing the latter?

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world -1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

You really can’t imagine answering a question, can you?

If you ever consider asking one in good faith, maybe you'd get an answer.

I am upset about the ongoing genocide and the entire world’s governments giving Israel a free genocide pass.

Except the one you can hold accountable but won't.

However, I am a realist, and I see that we have two options for president.

And you're going to gloat endlessly about it, since the "good" option is giving Netanyahu the same pass.

One is super pro-genocide, and the other could maybe possibly be blamed for not stepping up to stop it.

There is no daylight between Harris and Biden on this, and Biden has made it perfectly clear that he supports whatever Netanyahu does without condition or reservation. Her policies and his policies regarding Gaza are identical. That disappoints me and not you, so you assume I must be a trumper.

Hmm, should I go around on the internet bashing the latter?

Why would you? I don't see you going around the internet bashing the former, either. You just bash people who are less than ecstatic about the latter in any way at all.

[-] rigatti@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Hold on, did you think when I said "one is super pro-genocide" I was talking about Biden? That was about Trump. He fully supports wiping out Palestinians and uses the word Palestinian as a slur. Your options are that or Harris. My play is to vote Harris and then remain angry as she doesn't take as hard of a line as I would want, assuming she actually makes it into office. What's your play? I'm asking this in good faith, not just to stir up shit and argue online. Not voting, voting third party, or voting for Trump will definitely not stop the genocide. So what are we to do?

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

Hold on, did you think when I said “one is super pro-genocide” I was talking about Biden?

No, I thought you were talking about Trump. I don't see you bashing him, just people who express displeasure at genocide.

Your options are that or Harris. My play is to vote Harris and then remain angry as she doesn’t take as hard of a line as I would want, assuming she actually makes it into office. What’s your play?

Same. That doesn't mean I have to go around calling anyone who isn't 100% on board with genocide a fucking trumper.

I’m asking this in good faith, not just to stir up shit and argue online.

And then you immediately do this:

Not voting, voting third party, or voting for Trump will definitely not stop the genocide.

And I have never advocated for any of these. Just because you immediately assume that anyone who has a problem with genocide is a trumper, that doesn't make it the case.

So what are we to do?

I know! We should apply no pressure whatsoever to the Democratic Party or their candidate. That way, if Harris beats Trump while running on not changing a thing about US foreign policy as it pertains to the Gaza genocide, she can interpret our restrained tacit approval as a mandate from the people to continue supporting genocide.

Or we can register our disapproval, but you'll assume that's just trump support in all cases.

[-] rigatti@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

It's just weird to me that when this topic comes up, y'all never throw out the comparison with Trump's stance on the issue. It's always focused solely on Biden/Harris. Anyway, have a good day and for the love of god vote for Harris.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

It’s just weird to me that when this topic comes up, y’all never throw out the comparison with Trump’s stance on the issue. It’s always focused solely on Biden/Harris.

When it comes up, it's usually in the context of Biden/Harris. Trump is a giant piece of shit and I don't want him to be president. Netanyahu is also a giant piece of shit and we shouldn't be doing what he wants. When people bring up legitimate concerns about a literal fucking genocide and the response is "buh whubbut trump?" it sends the message that Democrats are completely uninterested in ever changing their unconscionable policy regarding Netanyahu's genocide and just want the enforced silence of any dissent.

Anyway, have a good day and for the love of god vote for Harris.

Already intend to, but since you are incapable of believing that someone can be outspoken about genocide without being a Trump supporter, you'll never believe me.

[-] rigatti@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

No, I believe you. We don't have to continue being impolite just because we're on the internet.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

Accusing people of being trumpers because they have a problem with genocide is truly the height of politeness.

[-] rigatti@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

I don't think you're a Trumper after you explained yourself more thoroughly. There are plenty of trolls and Trumpers out there posting articles like this to try to reduce Dem turnout in November. Without any context, this stuff looks like Trumping. Does that make sense?

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

Consider that you might be mistaken about others as well.

[-] rigatti@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Ok, I give up. You got me.

[-] Walteracc@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 1 week ago

Neo libs are always anti genocide as long as the genocide has already happened and their actions can't change the outcome.

[-] flying_gel@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

These are only damning comments if you have the views that Biden's presidency had been a disaster. So of course Republicans and their news would write negative articles and a Democratic news source would show it as Harris having worked with Biden to get things done.

Nothing to see here really, all Biden said I'd say that they work together for a common goal.

Isn't politics all about coming together, making compromises and try to agree what's best for the country?

For those who attack Fox news as a source they have a point, you won't get factual news from there, it will be very skewed to the right and they will make a story out of nothing for clicks.

[+] anticolonialist@lemmy.world -11 points 1 week ago

The point is is that Harris had just as much a say in what went on with Israel and Gaza as Biden did, despite liberals demanding that she was only vice president and she had no power. Their deaths and genocide is just as much on her hands as it is Biden.

[-] Eatspancakes84@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

Lol , Trump just told Israel to start using nukes. I am sure things will be much better with him in power.

[-] anticolonialist@lemmy.world -5 points 1 week ago

Only an idiot would vote for him

[-] flying_gel@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

USA is a very pro Israel county and the further right you get the more pro-israel you get.

Once both Democrats and Republicans are right wing parties it's not news to anyone that they support Israel.

Edit: If you are pro-palestine, I suggest you vote as far left as you can (which at the moment realistically only is Democrats) and contact your congressman/women to let them know what your views on these issues are.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

USA is a very pro Israel county and the further right you get the more pro-israel you get.

Which explains 100% of the animosity to genocide opponents here on lemmy.

[-] anticolonialist@lemmy.world -5 points 1 week ago

That's cute, sounds like more of that push them left after the election bullshit.

If liberals are so convinced that method works they should elect trump and push him left after the election

[-] flying_gel@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I agree that Palestine is an important issue, do you have any suggestions on how to improve the situation?

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