The two discuss the prominent blockchain privacy paper co-authored by Vitalik Buterin, the future of blockchain privacy vs surveillance coins. Alan explains why there’s a need to stop putting the state on a pedestal in the privacy debate in order to defend privacy in the future, the reason the US government doesn’t care as much about money laundering as long as it happens in US banks.

Alan also brought up a new cryptocurrency that he is working on which intends on being Quantum resistant. Doug recommends you check out the Monero Talk videos posted in the show notes for info on Quantum Resistance as it relates to Monero. XMR Donations Accepted & supporting us is easier than ever, by typing in MONEROTALK.CRYPTO into your monero.com or cake wallet wallet send address field - to send us a tip ;)