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The Stallman report (stallman-report.org)
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[-] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 17 points 1 day ago

Damning, but nothing that hasn’t already been talked about for a while now. Just formalizing the review. He’s a creep who did some cool things with software. It’s time to move on and leave him behind.

[-] rah@feddit.uk 9 points 1 day ago

did some cool things with software

LOL what an understatement

You might want to remember that he has done more to advance open source software than perhaps any other person on this planet. You don't get to take away someone's achievements just because you don't like them...

[-] Orygin@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 day ago

I don't see anyone trying to take away his achievement. The report and most commenters even recognize his contribution.
Also this goes more deeply than "not liking them", he has some morally reprehensible views. I admit I haven't read the whole report, but I have seen some of the things it touches on in the past and it's pretty damning.

[-] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 day ago

I gave him credit for that while also saying we shouldn't platform him or give him attention until and unless he recants and / or apologizes. Just like the report says.

[-] sukhmel@programming.dev 1 points 1 day ago

I think, this is what contemporary cancel culture usually tries to do.

I also think, that this is wrong on most occasions. Maybe sometimes possible damage warrants cancelling someone, I don't know

[-] AsudoxDev@programming.dev 0 points 1 day ago
[-] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 day ago

Went to look him up and the Wiki link showed as already visited. Yeah, I remember reading about this guy. Sad what mental health issues can do to people. Said the guy with mental health issues, fortunately less severe.

Well, ick.

I knew Stallman had some uh, wrong, opinions on some of that, but I think I need a shower now.

[-] rah@feddit.uk 5 points 1 day ago

when he threatened suicide if Betsy did not agree to date him

I skipped to the section on allegations of misconduct and stopped reading here. They just quoted Stallman saying he didn’t threaten suicide and then the (nameless, cowardly) authors immediately say “he threatened suicide”. Despicable. There is nobody to back up Betsy’s side. There’s no response from Betsy to Stallman’s recent comments on the incident. And yet this is the first “corroborated” example they come out with.

This site is another insidious hit piece full of holes. I pity the authors that they’re so twisted and power-hungry in their relentless attacking of a man who has clearly suffered for having a different mind to most and yet also contributed so much. Much more, I would guess, than these snakes will ever contribute.

[-] sukhmel@programming.dev 2 points 1 day ago

This is not the first time I find people attacking Stallman without much evidence or by taking his words out of context. But his views as expressed by himself on his site are also pretty extreme, and I don't find those good.

It would be better to discern allegations and facts, still.

[-] rah@feddit.uk 0 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

his views as expressed by himself on his site are also pretty extreme, and I don't find those good

I've always found Stallman's views to be impeccably rational. To me, the extremity is instead in the irrationality of those who find Stallman's views extreme. In general, people aren't rational and find it difficult to cope when they come across a person who is. I think this is why so many people find Stallman's notes distasteful.

Irrationality is also why I find this report to be so ugly: it's full of non sequiturs. It's a product of irrational, seemingly damaged minds.

[-] BB_C@programming.dev -5 points 1 day ago

Good thing there is no long list of signatories in this one. I had to double-check the open letter when it came out to make sure no one fake-included me there.

Hope the nu crowd are winning their arguments hard.. in their own echo chambers. Because no one else is going to even feel their presence outside of them.

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