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Alright guys, who shut down their farmbot yesterday? Loss of 70k users (5%), graph might be misleading (feddit.org)

submitted 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) by Blaze@feddit.org to c/fediverse@lemmy.world

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[-] Dave@lemmy.nz 135 points 5 months ago

That graph is so misleading. Makes it look like almost all the users disappeared but the Y axis only covers a small range at the top.

[-] Steve@communick.news 86 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

The full range is about 5.5%. So while it is misleading, a 5% drop in a graph that consistent isn't nothing. Something substantial absolutly changed

[-] ademir@lemmy.eco.br 32 points 5 months ago

Maybe whole Instance that went offline.

[-] Blaze@feddit.org 12 points 5 months ago

That's my guess to

[-] beefbot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Cool then it should be 5.5% of the visual space for it to not be misleading. But it’s represented much larger. And OP is (edit to sound less mean) not updating the post sooo…

I call shade

[-] DarkThoughts@fedia.io 35 points 5 months ago

It's like 70k users.

[-] Dave@lemmy.nz 25 points 5 months ago

Exactly. Not the over a million that it looks like at a glance.

The user count isn't helpful anyway, active users is a much better measure.

[-] ademir@lemmy.eco.br 3 points 5 months ago

true that

[-] Blaze@feddit.org 12 points 5 months ago

I captured the graph with the number after the decrease at the bottom right to try to show the number of lost users, but I see where you come from

[+] beefbot@lemmy.blahaj.zone -11 points 5 months ago

If you saw why people would criticise it then you’d… edit the post, recapture the graph with an accurate visual representation including the zero on the Y axis?

[-] Blaze@feddit.org 18 points 5 months ago

Well...

that's how the website displayed the graph when I took that screenshot, I'm pretty sure you can't modify the axis
I'm not on my computer at the moment, editing is the most I can do right now
if you can capture the graph with 0 on the Y axis, please post it below and I'll update the picture

[-] GBU_28@lemm.ee 7 points 5 months ago

Or just inform the other adults to consult the axis for clarification.

[-] SlothMama@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago

It's the only way to demonstrate the fall, of you did it at scale it would've even be noticeable.

[-] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

5% is noticeable unless the graph is under 20 pixels tall. Even then, dithering or antialiasing techniques could make it visible.

[-] RogueBanana@lemmy.zip 3 points 5 months ago

There are people here who didn't even notice the axis and are confused. How do you expect everyone to notice a 5% drop lol.

[-] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Well if they didn't even notice an axis on a graph, they might be too stupid for a graph...

My point was only to say that 5% is very mich visible on a 0-100% graph.

[-] RogueBanana@lemmy.zip 1 points 5 months ago

My point is that it is hardly visible and doesn't show the exact numbers properly. I prefer the current style of graph for showing sudden changes if the previous data points isn't that important in the context. But everyone has their preference I suppose.

[-] lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 5 months ago

Lies, damned lies and statistics.

[-] Jumuta@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 months ago

no it's not?

you can see the axes and op even mentions that it's a 5% drop

the graph is clearly just fitted to the data

[-] Blaze@feddit.org 11 points 5 months ago

I edited the title after their comment, it wasn't that clear at the beginning

[-] lennivelkant@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 5 months ago

In my classes on analytics, we were taught to prefer using normalised axes starting at 0 to more accurately put changes into perspective.

[-] ThomasLadder_69@lemmy.ml 5 points 5 months ago

the graph is clearly just fitted to the data

That's the problem. It's heavily skewed when compared to the greater overall engagement statistics.

[-] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 30 points 5 months ago

Did an instance go down?

[-] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago

Maybe it's a problem with the crawler.

[-] Danterious@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 5 months ago

Probably but which instance has over 70,000 users?

~Anti~ ~Commercial-AI~ ~license~ ~(CC~ ~BY-NC-SA~ ~4.0)~

[-] poke@sh.itjust.works 22 points 5 months ago

Which one of you forgot to open the app so we all ceased to exist to save on simulation resources?

[-] 11111one11111@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

Go on... lol

[-] Evotech@lemmy.world 13 points 5 months ago

At least user a log scale. But start at 0

[-] Blaze@feddit.org 12 points 5 months ago

Feel free to suggest this to the Fediverse Observer team

[-] Evotech@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

Ah, I didn't know.

The monthly graph is pretty interesting in the same way, -400k?

[-] Blaze@feddit.org 3 points 5 months ago

Lots of farmbots going down looking at the servers graph

[-] Evotech@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

Interestingly the amount of active users status pretty solid at 200k indeed

[-] Emperor@feddit.uk 8 points 5 months ago

Interestingly there seems to have been an uptick in comments.

[-] Blaze@feddit.org 8 points 5 months ago

Indeed, the plot thickens.

Maybe the farm bot owner decided to make all comments by a single bot now.

[-] Emperor@feddit.uk 2 points 5 months ago

Curiouser and curiouser.

Probably some mundane explanation but still...

[-] ademir@lemmy.eco.br 2 points 5 months ago

LOL

[-] itsgroundhogdayagain@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 months ago

Was the metric measured before the day the was over which would limit the timeframe of the final day and show fewer users?
I dont see this chart when I click the link