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NATO apologism (lemmy.world)

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[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago

Look, NATO is bad, that's why it's absolutely necessary for anti-imperialism purposes that Russia invades its neighbors before they can get into NATO!

[-] lugal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 years ago

Which works about as good as rhe war on terror

[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

"Bro just one more invasion bro I swear this time it'll really solve ~~terrorism~~ Western Imperialism(tm) for good!"

[-] PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago

Problem is, Russia is technically in the west.

[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Something something, Eurasian realignment BRICS Imperial Core Global South Anti-Colonial Axis of Resistance.

I think I'm ready to start my career as a professional tankie!

[-] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 9 points 2 years ago

I'd be glad if NATO didn't exist.

It would mean countries wouldn't feel threatened by their neighbors, and no invasions would happen.

But until that is the case, NATO is necessary.

[-] calcopiritus@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

I would much prefer every country in the planet being in NATO.

Any country attacks any other country? Literally the whole world goes to defend it. So no invasions are possible.

It wouldn't work though. Wouldn't take much time for alliances to form that agree to not follow NATO'S rules.

[-] MindTraveller@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 years ago

Nah, I want war. I want the rest of the world to go to war with the US. They've got a Nazi problem. We beat the Nazis in 1945 and we might need to beat them again in 2045.

[-] archomrade@midwest.social -2 points 2 years ago

Nato already does not enforce their mission against the US and US backed vassel states

[-] I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

Sure I'm a NATO apologist: I'm sorry NATO is necessary because Russia is such an antagonistic fuckwad.

[-] dubya43@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Russia had a choice: play by the west's rules, or play second fiddle to China. They chose the latter unfortunately for them and for us.

[-] Jumi@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

That's just what happens when you go from tsarist serfdom state to a communist peasant regime to a "democractic" dictatorship while constantly greasing the gears with vodka and corruption.

[-] dubya43@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Hey at least the alcoholism has gotten a little bit better, right?

[-] Skates@feddit.nl 1 points 2 years ago

Hey, you'd think so, right?

https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2024/01/15/alcohol-dependency-in-russia-increases-for-first-time-in-a-decade-a83718

I mean, even if we trust the numbers coming out of a propaganda-riddled shithole whose only saving grace at this point would be a couple hundred strategically placed nukes (which - to be clear - I don't. Their entire government+military is probably downing shots just to get through morning briefings). Even trusting their sources, they're still back on the potato wild ride again. At this point I can only commend the nation for slowly killing itself, and blame them for not choosing a speedier route.

[-] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago

Gentle reminder that blocking the entire Lemmy.ml instance has made this place a lot less … tankie

[-] socsa@piefed.social 1 points 2 years ago

Ah yes, that paragon of leftist virtue...

...checks notes...

Muammar Gaddafi?

And they wonder why they don't get taken seriously.

[-] Miaou@jlai.lu 2 points 2 years ago

The point is not that Gaddafi was a leftist, but that NATO is an evil imperialistic offensive organisation that overthrows governments

Of course Libya was never a NATO mission, was done by two countries (I include the UK as part of the USA at this point) that certainly could have coordinated even if NATO did not exist. France has always been the most NATO sceptical country in the union as well.

Oh and let's not forget that blaming NATO allows them to forget the real reason France got involved there. But why would they want to distract people away from Sarkozy and his neoimperialism? Let me check what's he got to say about Ukraine... Yup, checks out

[-] vga@sopuli.xyz 0 points 2 years ago

Everyone's just throwing away their masks left and right. Left is becoming full-blown marxist/leninist, right is becoming actual nazis.

[-] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 years ago

Anarchists: Are we a joke to you? Yes? Fair enough. We'll be over listening to folk punk and reminiscing about Dr. King being right in his Letter from Birmingham Jail.

[-] taladar@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 years ago

The extremists in the anarchist movement are the ones who pretend everyone would just work together fine and self-organize if there was no government at all, aren't they? Or am I thinking of a different group.

[-] Tomassci@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago

Hey, as a non-authoritarian leftist, I can assure that MLs are just a subset that really wants to pretend they're spearheading the Left to fulfill their bloodbath fantasies. There's lots of us that don't like them and aren't like them at all.

[-] Mwa@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago

even one of the mods is a commie

[-] Arn_Thor@feddit.uk 1 points 2 years ago

PSA: Not every commie is a tankie

[-] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago

Boo fucking hoo, you were wrong and come crying here about "tankies"? You are the exact same, just on the opposite side of the political spectrum. Get some self awareness. NATO is a bunch of warmongers who managed to get Putin to do the greatest PR coup for them just as they were losing significance - and now they could be important because at this moment Russian regime is the greater evil. But instead they do fuck all in helping Ukraine to a decisive victor, proving again that those shitstains just want to prolongue the conflict to line the pockets of their buddies in the military industrial complex. Disgusting fucks, all of them!

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