Tankies celebrate terrorism -- "The french deserve a thousand charlie hebdos." (sh.itjust.works)

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[-] archomrade@midwest.social 1 points 10 hours ago

Had to go looking, but I found the image this comment is in reaction to.

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It's a cartoon from "Liberation" newspaper in france, and the caption is "Ramadan in Gaza" (published just after the hunanitarian aid blockade and famine crisis started in Gaza, for which Israel is now being accused as an act of genocide)

The woman in a hijab is slapping the hand of an emaciated Gazan chasing after a rat, presumably to catch and eat it, and saying "Not before sunset"

It's a pretty openly Islamophobic joke about Gazan's starving during the month of Ramadan where muslims traditionally fast from sunrise to sunset.

I don't think it should need to be said, but even orthodox Muslims recognize exceptions to fasting during ramadan for starvation and bodily injury.

[-] Imhotep@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago

This is illegal under french law I believe

[-] goat@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 hours ago

Feel free to report them

[-] eran_morad@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago

Degenerates.

[-] mariusafa@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 22 hours ago

Why so mad against french?

[-] goat@sh.itjust.works 9 points 21 hours ago

They seem to dislike france's freedom of speech and their anti-islam stance.

... No, it does not make sense. I don't have a clue.

[-] archomrade@midwest.social -4 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

I think it has more to do with Macron and his bedding of right-wing fascists to avoid a left-wing government coalition

That, and their funding of religious ethnostate terrorists...

Edit: i don't get it, is it something I said?

Edit 2: OK, I was wrong about the specific context of the comment, but I'll take partial credit for guessing it had to do with the war in Gaza

[-] goat@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 hours ago

Yes, the dislike of a democratically elected leader is reasonable clause to call for innocent french people to die in a massacre

[-] archomrade@midwest.social -2 points 11 hours ago

I didn't say it was reasonable, I was only answering the question as to why they were angry with France.

I think what the west deserves for funding a genocidal fascist is entirely up for debate, but that they deserve something is pretty well justified, IMHO

[-] goat@sh.itjust.works 3 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

I think what the west deserves for funding a genocidal fascist is entirely up for debate, but that they deserve something is pretty well justified, IMHO

Are you trying to say the West deserves violence? Advocating for violence isn't allowed in this community or instance.

[-] archomrade@midwest.social 1 points 10 hours ago

Absolutely not. I'm advocating for justice.

[-] goat@sh.itjust.works 3 points 10 hours ago

And what will this justice be? Because the post is saying a massacre.

I think it's pretty telling you were advocating for violence, and now you're forced to backtrack.

[-] archomrade@midwest.social -1 points 10 hours ago

I wasn't advocating for anything, I was answering the question about why they were angry with the french.

And what will this justice be?

If it were me, i'd say the west should face international sanction and prosecution in the Hague for all leaders/diplomats accused of willfully collaborating with a genocide. Of course, a western-controlled criminal court would never do such a thing, so I guess all we have is BDS and public protest.

[-] goat@sh.itjust.works 3 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

You italicised something. Implying violence as per the post.

International sanctions? How would that even work? You can't sanction over half the world, let alone prosecute them. Why does New Zealand get sanctioned? Why Europe? Why Canada? What about countries that are collaborating in the Ukraine-Russia war? How about congo?

This is a fantasy

[-] archomrade@midwest.social -1 points 10 hours ago

I italicized something because I believe the west (including France, in this case) does deserve some kind of punishment for their crimes against Palestine. Obviously I don't think countries who had nothing to do with this genocide need be punished, but at this point much of the western world has enabled it either by direct material contribution or by a failure to boycott, divest, or sanction Israel for their crimes.

It's not up to me to decide what that justice is or how it's administered, but I don't think there's any arguing that there shouldn't be some measure of justice for Palestine. Unless you believe Israel has done nothing wrong.....?

This is a fantasy

Yup, that's all we have, because as you alluded to: this is the west's global hegemony, we're just living in it.

[-] goat@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 hours ago

And how about Iran, China and Russia? Do they also get this punishment?

[-] archomrade@midwest.social 1 points 1 hour ago

Sorry, maybe I'm unfamiliar: how are they involved in Israel's genocide...? Or is that off-topic?

But funny you should mention three of the most sanctioned countries in the world as examples, because what I'm advocating for is just a bit of consistency

[-] goat@sh.itjust.works 1 points 20 minutes ago* (last edited 14 minutes ago)

Should they also get punishment for their crimes against Palestine? Such as Iran aiding Hamas, Houthis and Hezbollah, effectively instigating more war? And China and Russia's support of Iran and their mutual exchange of military equipment, intelligence, as well as their extensive propaganda networks?

Or is that off-topic?

Vaguely off-topic, yes, the post is related more to the tankies wishing more Charlie Hebdo massacres, which I'm glad you've disavowed. However, their calls for violence are in reaction to Israel-Palestine. For some reason, they believe France, of all countries, deserves massacres for their stance. Rather funny really, shows their ignorance.

Do you believe this is off-topic? If you think it is, we can drop it.

[-] JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee 12 points 1 day ago

What does that mean? Do they actually want Charlie Hebdos, as in people that aren't scared to make irreverent cartoons of Mohammed? Or they want people like Charlie Hebdo to get the same response from the Muslim community? There's a difference.

[-] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I too am intrigued why tankies would support islamic fundamentalists murdering leftist french journalists... Doesn't add up... My only guess (beyond the general mental illness tankies display) is that French colonialism fucked up cultures around the world for centuries — across south America, Africa, and Asia — and they still hold political and military control over a few of them... But why cheer islamic terrorism? Why cheer the murder of leftist journos?

This sub should require links to the offending thread, so users can view in context. Otherwise this could've been posted anywhere. I'd expect this screenshot from the likes of Truth Social.

[-] archomrade@midwest.social 1 points 9 hours ago

They are reacting to this comic from 'Liberation' newspaper last year about the genocide in Gaza during Ramadan:

The woman in a hijab is slapping the hand of an emaciated Gazan chasing after a rat, presumably to catch and eat it, and saying "Not before sunset"

[-] goat@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Tankies are very simple things. They operate by US bad

If something, like jihadists, says the US is bad, then the Tankies will support them.

until....

BWARK 🔪🐔

This sub should require links to the offending thread, so users can view in context. Otherwise this could’ve been posted anywhere. I’d expect this screenshot from the likes of Truth Social.

I also am not allowed to link to the content. I also don't link to it because then they can edit or change the content.

[-] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 3 points 19 hours ago

They're leftists but not the right kind of leftists. That makes them deserving of being murdered in the tankies' eyes.

[-] rc__buggy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 17 hours ago

1000 pretentious leftist magazines would be WAY too many

[-] goat@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

They want to kill -- Or rather, like classic rich college kids, they want others to kill for them. They will thankfully never do anything violent, all bark.

[-] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 20 hours ago

(Well, actually, watch out for them IRL on a smaller level. They very well may be violent, abusive people that will hurt you, or participate in SLA style politicial violence, it's just that no "revolution" is ever going to happen.

And before someone says it, no I didn't say they all are, just that they can be.)

[-] goat@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 hours ago

I've seen what they look like. They're not particularly strong men, really flimsy, actually. Riddled with anxiety and insecurity.

[-] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 10 hours ago

Usually. Every now and again they kill Marcus Foster.

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