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REPORT: Arm is sensationally canceling the license that allowed Qualcomm to make Snapdragon chips which power everything from Microsoft's Copilot+ PCs to Samsung's Galaxy smartphones and tablets (www.windowscentral.com)

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[-] irotsoma@lemmy.world 40 points 3 hours ago

Tech patents are ridiculous. Let's end them or reduce them to 1-3 years with no renewal. Then all that's left is the specific copyright to the technology, not lingering webs of patents that don't make any sense anyway to anyone with detailed knowledge of the tech. All they're good for is big companies using legal methods to stop innovation and competition. Tech moves too fast for long patents and is too complex for patent examiners or courts to understand what is really patentable. So it comes down to who has the most money for lawyers.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 7 points 1 hour ago

[-] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 4 points 1 hour ago

Yeah, but another big issue is that big companies can afford to bribe or buy out the patent holders in the first place. Ideally, the patent holders would benefit the most from everyone making their tech, but instead they benefit the most from one company being the exclusive manufacturer and highest bidder.

The act of an agreement asking a patent holder not to sell to other manufacturers in itself should be illegal.

[-] irotsoma@lemmy.world 4 points 1 hour ago

Yeah, making patents nontransferable would solve that. Ultimately, getting rid of most would be good, but if we have to keep them, then they should be dissolved if a company fails or is bought out because obviously the patent itself wasn't enough to make a product that was viable. So everyone should get the chance to use the patent. The whole purpose of a patent vs keeping tech proprietary until the product is released was to benefit society once the patent expires. Otherwise, it makes more sense for companies to keep inventions secret if they aren't just stockpiling them like they do now.

[-] cordlesslamp@lemmy.today 15 points 2 hours ago

Seeing things like "slide to unlock", "rounded corners", and "scroll bouncing" are all patentable is ridiculous.

[-] TheObviousSolution@lemm.ee 41 points 6 hours ago

The amount of IP money grubbing in the IT industry is able to literally make millions out of sand, this is just more of it.

[-] mo_lave@reddthat.com 1 points 43 minutes ago* (last edited 43 minutes ago)

Not necessarily "out of sand". IP is basically putting a price tag on a person for them to say "Yes, I consent". In other words, technofeudalism.

[-] laurelraven@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 28 minutes ago

I may be off base but I think that might be referencing what the computer chips are made of....

[-] mo_lave@reddthat.com 1 points 15 minutes ago

Think you're right lol

[-] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 92 points 7 hours ago

A risky move... Or should I say... A RISCV move...

[-] vext01@lemmy.sdf.org 23 points 6 hours ago

"risc architecture is gonna change everything"

[-] Xatolos@reddthat.com 5 points 56 minutes ago

It really did.

FYI, ARM stands for Advanced RISC Machines.

[-] frezik@midwest.social 12 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

It actually did, but not in a way people expected at the time that movie was made. It changed a lot underneath the hood.

[-] vext01@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 2 hours ago

Hack the planet!

[-] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 11 points 5 hours ago

Year of the riscv desktop

[-] vext01@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 hours ago

It's a quote from a film

[-] pewgar_seemsimandroid@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 5 hours ago

year of the linux riscv desktop

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[-] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 11 points 6 hours ago

For a firm that already have their own core designs that simply use the ARM instruction set, it might be easier to adapt to RISC-V. For a firm that licenses ARM cores on the other hand...

[-] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 49 points 7 hours ago

This seems like a tactic that might win a battle but lose the war. Reminds me of Unity.

[-] ReadyUser31@lemmy.world 7 points 4 hours ago

What happened with Unity in the end? Did they back down?

[-] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 30 points 3 hours ago

the fact that you know they fucked up but don't know how they fixed it says it all.

even if they did "fix" it, public opinion has been settled and nobody will trust them for awhile.

[-] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 5 points 3 hours ago

Yeah, iirc, at first they tried to downplay the change, then they paused it, then they walked it back entirely. I think that last step happened relatively recently, even.

But IMO the damage was done from just trying to alter the deal like that.

And, for me personally, I (naively) thought that ARM was an open standard. I opposed the Nvidia purchase because I thought they would do their corporate bullshit to kill off competition or for greed and thought that it getting blocked meant it would be free of corporate bullshit. This action makes it clear that it's already got some of that going on and ARM has been mentally re-filed to a spot beside x86 and its derivatives.

Though now I'm wondering if that's the whole point. Do some shitty corporate stuff so that the next time someone wants to buy them out, there isn't as much opposition and the current owners and C-suite can cash out.

[-] moon@lemmy.cafe 68 points 9 hours ago

The free market is going very well here

[-] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 30 points 8 hours ago

This is 100% capitalism. It's not free market to have a goverment-enforced monopoly.

[-] chakan2@lemmy.world 35 points 8 hours ago

This is textbook late stage free market ideals at work. This is how the free market always ends.

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[-] frezik@midwest.social 37 points 8 hours ago

We shall break into the desktop and laptop market! Let's start by severing ties with one of the most successful companies to do that so far.

[-] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 4 points 5 hours ago

Apple?

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