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[-] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 5 points 37 minutes ago

So don't vote for them dipshits (punctuation intentionally left out for double entendre)

[-] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 hour ago

But they'll still vote for it anyway.

[-] xc2215x@lemmy.world 1 points 33 minutes ago

Glad many of these voters do.

[-] kitnaht@lemmy.world 6 points 2 hours ago

20% of any poll will agree with basically anything. So I pretty much always lop off that portion in my head by default now. So until that number reaches 60%, it doesn't really mean much.

[-] TriflingToad@lemmy.world 1 points 20 minutes ago

"will you sign my petition?"

[-] floofloof@lemmy.ca 24 points 4 hours ago

Even though these people will still vote for an anti-trans Republican candidate, the poll is a little encouraging. Republican politicians are not principled, and if persecuting trans people doesn't win them applause from their voters perhaps they'll quieten down a bit from inciting this particular hatred.

[-] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 hour ago

The problem is that if it appeals to a small number of people, and isn't a dealbreaker for everyone else then it's worth doing. In order for anything to actually change there have to be more people willing to walk away over the culture war bullshit than there are people who vote for them because of it. Otherwise it's still a win for them.

[-] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 5 points 2 hours ago

this particular hatred

History has repeatedly shown us they'll just move on to a new target for their bigotry because that's the only way they can come close to getting a majority of voters to back their economic plans that only serve a wealthy few. Like, trans people right now are just what gay people were for their party 10-20 years ago.

[-] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 hours ago

59% don't find it "shameful" and it's not like those 41% are going to vote for someone else...

[-] LadyMeow@lemmy.blahaj.zone 94 points 5 hours ago

Then why are they republican? Thats literally one of the GQPs top concerns right now.

[-] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 4 minutes ago

A lot of them are living in parts of the country that are more rural. That means most of their friends and family, their community, is Republican. Losing that network of support would create trauma. It doesn’t make it ok for them to vote against the common good, but it allows for understanding the psychological challenge of switching parties.

Plus they probably hate Muslims and see nothing wrong with that.

[-] pennomi@lemmy.world 32 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Because they have different priorities.

Maybe they are big gun aficionados and don’t like the idea of gun control. Maybe they don’t like immigration. Or they’re rich and don’t like taxes. Or any number of other issues. But it all comes down to the idea that something else is more important to them than the rights of trans people.

I think it’s shameful that anything takes priority over human rights. That being said, it’s very human to ignore the happiness of people that aren’t directly involved in their lives.

[-] newthrowaway20@lemmy.world 41 points 5 hours ago

It's all they know. Their dad voted Republican, and his dad voted Republican, so I guess that means they don't get a choice somehow.

[-] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 23 points 5 hours ago

Like always supporting the sports team from where they were born, just because they were born there.

[-] Cosmonauticus@lemmy.world 17 points 4 hours ago

Except if my team was ran by confirmed bigots for 60+ years I'd support a different team

[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 1 points 10 minutes ago

You’d think reason alone would be enough.

You would be sorely mistaken.

Jesus, trucks, meat, and football. Pick any four.

[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 5 points 4 hours ago

"Voted for Eisenhower 'cause Lincoln won the war"

[-] savx@lemmy.world 17 points 5 hours ago

because by saying "sad and shameful" they are not saying they oppose the gop rhetoric, they simply dont like the tone. 60% of gop still choose to vote for anti-trans candidate in the same survey.

Because they're not single issue voters for that specific cause.

[-] LadyMeow@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 hours ago

Yeah you’re right, they were single issue voters for taking women’s rights, how silly of me to forget.

[-] CuriousRefugee@lemmy.ml 4 points 4 hours ago

Because people are rarely single issue voters. There are a few here and there, but given the dominance of the US's two-party system, you often have to make a choice. If I imagine 2 candidates: one who is strongly pro-choice but overtly anti-gay, and another who is strongly pro-life but also pro-LGBTQ issues, that would actually be a pretty tough decision for me.

As much as I want to hate Trump supporters, I can still sympathize with them. A lot are lifelong Republicans who are choosing between someone who will probably try to enact 90% of their personal beliefs but is an authoritarian crazy person, and someone who seems sane but disagrees with them on 90% of issues and will do everything to stymie the things they believe to be right. It's not a simple choice.

I'm ignoring third-parties here as a caveat, so apologies if that's the crux of your question. But my opinion is that you should push for and vote for a new system while accepting that the rules are what they are now, and you have to strategize with the current situation.

[-] hmonkey@lemy.lol 0 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

They probably have other reasons they vote republican. If they could cherry pick each issue, those 41% would obviously vote accordingly but the reality is it's just one big game of red vs blue so it's yet another complex topic reduced to a binary

…and will probably still vote for candidates who spew it

[-] LovingHippieCat@lemmy.world 9 points 5 hours ago

"Listen, bigotry is sad and shameful. I don't agree trans people should be made illegal. But taxes and immigrants..."

[-] MushuChupacabra@lemmy.world 10 points 5 hours ago

Then stop being a Republican, or give the GOP a long overdue enema.

[-] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 5 hours ago

Then stop voting for them, you troglodytes!!!

[-] teslasaur@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago
[-] solarvector@lemmy.zip 2 points 5 hours ago

The image that is painted of other people is even worse, so for them supporting Republicans is somehow the lesser evil. Even though this is just one topic where they're sad and shameful.

Also... not sure I believe this poll is super accurate in phrasing.

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