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I miss when the quiet part was kept quiet (hexbear.net)

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cross-posted from: https://hexbear.net/post/3752956

Fascism is here.

https://www.axios.com/2024/10/22/trump-mass-deportation-immigrant-camps

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[-] hate2bme@lemmy.world 16 points 5 hours ago

I guess I'm crazy thinking we should just help them to do what they need to do to become citizens. I work with a few undocumented men and they are just doing what I'm doing, working to take care of my family.

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[-] _bcron_@lemmy.world 9 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Okay, so militarized detainment camps for people who enter the border is cool, but taking people who orchestrate a coup, lining them up against a brick wall, and having a firing squad go through them is not.

Hard to follow their logic in regard to protecting our great nation

[-] BigMacHole@lemm.ee 5 points 6 hours ago

Concentration Camps are NOT Nazi things!

[-] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 15 points 6 hours ago

I think you mean not just Nazi things

[-] Psychodelic@lemmy.world 6 points 5 hours ago

You're both right.

Nazis had death camps, which are a type of concentration camp.

Concentration camps were what Americans had, when we imprisoned Japanese-American citizens. Apparently, Internment camps are concentration camps for "enemies" and supposedly not meant to imprison a country's own citizens

It shouldn't be hard to understand the benefit of this being confusing and who it benefits. It benefits the people that supported these unreasonable and racist actions and those that have profited off such actions economically and socially

Source, though I didn't read everything

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[+] LavenderDay3544@lemmy.world -15 points 5 hours ago

Putting them into camps would be a human rights violation but it's not exactly a ridiculous notion to say that illegal aliens should be deported. This whole game of calling them immigrants is bullshit. Immigrants have visas and permanent residency cards, illegal aliens have no permission to be in the US at all. You don't just wantonly get to walk into a country without permission and then act like you have a right to be there. Sovereign states have a right to decide under their laws who is allowed in their territory.

The best actual solution would be to start charging their home countries for deportation and have a check in, check out system for temporary visas where you check in to get the visa at a US embassy or consulate in your home country and once the visa is expired you have a certain number of days to check out at the same embassy or consulate in your home country or a warrant for your arrest is immediately issued in the US to have you deported, again at your government's expense.

[-] rimu@piefed.social 6 points 4 hours ago

In your best actual solution, how do refugees apply for asylum?

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

They don't of course because we'll never admit that Mexico is in a long running civil war with its cartels.

[-] LavenderDay3544@lemmy.world -2 points 3 hours ago

In the first safe country they arrive at like they're supposed to under international law. If their claim is denied, then they need to accept deportation.

There's nothing fascist about that. It's the international convention for how these things are handled. Refugees don't get to pick and choose where they are given refuge.

This reminds me of the south Americans coming up in one of the caravans who were given free food and shelter by the Mexican government and they complained that they didn't like the food and threw it away. And those people wanted to keep going up to the US. That's not fair in any sense and anyone who's being that picky about where they're given asylum and what food they're given using tax money from a host country isn't a legitimate refugee.

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[-] coffee_with_cream@sh.itjust.works -3 points 3 hours ago

Good luck making this argument on lemmy. 🤡 You are not alone in your thinking though.

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