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submitted 1 month ago by maxprime@lemmy.ml to c/linux@lemmy.ml

I’m a teacher and our division just “upgraded” to W11 with a new version of outlook that is basically a web app on desktop. Several times a day my laptop comes to a complete crawl while Teams decides to open itself. Can’t open or close programs, Firefox won’t register mouse clicks, nothing. Graphical glitches appear al the time with menu bars and task bars disappearing regularly, requiring force quitting the app or logging out of the desktop.

When I first switched to Linux I assumed my experience would be like this. But now it’s the other way around.

Rant over.

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[-] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 month ago
[-] Voltage@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 month ago

I use both but windows 11 has been generally stable and visual artifact free for me even more than windows 10. Like i have never seen BSOD on 11 yet but on 10 it was regular.

Btw did you tweak it to remove bloat and crapware? Windows will break if you do it even if the bloat removing tool call it stable.

[-] Tumbleweeds5@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 month ago

My home desktop has been on Linux for almost a decade, and a few months ago, my employer certified Linux as a choice for our corporate laptops. I couldn't be happier. If only I managed to convince my wife to take the plunge, but she is the most anti-change person I know when it comes to technology. It took her months to stop complaining when she had to upgrade to Win 10 and her 9 years old computer is slow as it gets right now, it was never re-installed and she rather not risk trying to make it better in fear of breaking something...

[-] jollyrogue@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 month ago

Debian in WSL is my single favorite thing about Windows work laptop. Real tools! 😃

I’m back on windows for work after a decade away, and all the reasons I left are still there. The tools are still lacking, the layout is non-sensical, prototyping requires expensive subscriptions, and it’s not designed to get work done.

*nixes and macOS, to a lesser extent, are much nicer. The *nixes are designed to get work done. I have my gripes, but good lord they’re small comparatively.

[-] Talaraine@fedia.io 3 points 1 month ago

Yeah now add Dynamics to all that and you get my day. Eyeroll

[-] idotherock@lemm.ee 3 points 1 month ago

Guh. Amen to this! I’m in the same boat. Sometimes I just bring a Linux laptop with me to work just to have a break from the work computer.

[-] Matriks404@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

You can still use the classic version of Outlook, that comes with latest Office. It is literally called "Outlook (classic)" in the start menu.

[-] shapis@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago

Hm. Not sure if it’s because I’ve stuck with gnome and kde. But both definitely freeze often during high I/o or intense processing times.

On multiple machines and multiple distros. It’s one of the most annoying things about it really.

[-] MyNameIsRichard@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 month ago

Can't comment on Gnome as I don't use it, but that hasn't been my experience with KDE. Previously running Tumbleweed and now running EndeavourOS

[-] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 month ago

Maybe it's because of Wayland, but that hasn't been my experience with KDE. It has been lightning quick lately (though I recently switched to an immutable distro so that could be part of it)

[-] wax@feddit.nu 1 points 1 month ago

Not completely sure, but I believe that is a kernel thing. Hence present on all distros. Perhaps because the kernel is turned for throughput/server workloads. I hope this will be resolved with new schedulers though (e.g., through sched_ext).

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[-] oo1@lemmings.world 1 points 1 month ago

For me, at work it's more MS sharepoint and MS dynamic (+oracle clod shit of course) that fk me over on a daily basis - that's possibly due to the way our IT people don't seem to know how to use them or set them up - and won't let us query(just SELECT) the dynamics tables directly using SQL for whatever reason. (i suspect we have to pay MS to acces our own data). And of course things like MS excel being used to mangle data by default all the time - yeah i know always use power query import . . . just everything takes six extra steps and the easy way is always the worst way.

W10 is mostly okay. I mean it's slow and hard to use, blasts the cpu fan all the time, is still annoying with updates, and I have to "right click open with" to open anything in the application that i want (even when there is only one native appllication for the file format). You get used to working around that shit.

That is just not true for sharepoint and other MS apps, it gets worse, and as soon as you think you get used to a workaround for one thing, something else changes or an old thing resurfaces. and dynamic has just "upgraded" the colour scheme of the status colum so that there is no contrast between the background and the text. black text on white background, good enough for every other column, but no upgrade that one to black on dark blue, thanks bill you're a F-ing-C. how do they screw up things like that as a bajillion dollar company.

So I was going to say that W10 is more or less stable and it is other MS stuff that I hate more. that is probably true. but actually sitting down and writing out the above, W10 is still pretty horrible to . . . whether it's our IT or MS itself, it's shit.

I much prefer my home linuxes, it is just as stable (for me) - and just so much easier to use - and most of all it is quieter on the fan. So much more relaxing.

W11 had better be "not worse" or i'll probably have to quit.

[-] BritishJ@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

For dynamics you have to ask MS for access to the sql back end. Then its granted for several hours as read only. That's why you have to use synapse link to a data lake etc.

[-] oo1@lemmings.world 1 points 1 month ago

I don't know what a "synapse link" is i'm sure we'd not be allowed access to that; though I can think of at least one manager who would have parrotted that for a few monts if they'd heard it; "data lake" was also one of those for a while, it seems to have given way to "lakehouse" now. I just want to put on concrete boots, jump off the boat and hope it's deep enough.

[-] BritishJ@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

I understand you. Very annoying these days.

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