Seeing myself as center-left...
For my family, I'm the one who is left...
For the guys on hexbear, I'm far-right.
Anyone who says they became a right-winger because they hated their fellow left-wingers is lying.
But, of course, every word uttered by a conservative is deception or manipulation. Every word.
not fellow left-wingers - one way many people get pushed right is by watching right wing content that just shows lefties acting like idiots and then goes "omg look SJWs so dumb". So people get turned off from feminism or progressivism before they have a chance to actually engage with it. Then, there's only one direction to go when frustration sets in - right.
Just look at the amount of ragebait on (conventional) social media showing feminists or queer activists or woke people acting cringe. It's the first step of the right-wing pipeline.
Or they engage one too many times with hexbear and lemmygrad and .ml posters and now associate "left" with tankie.
yeah exactly, imagine abandoning your entire worldview because someone was mean to you one too many times. You'd need to have no moral compass nor a spine to do that
~~if a fellow leftie is mean to me i just call them a tankie and move on with my life /j~~
I agree with the sentiment but I'd say in the ones who genuinely believe it, it's a result of them being successfully deceived or manipulated
There's a "joke" that if you put 3 leftists in a room, out comes 5 political parties.
That makes sense, one for each of them, and two to span their differences whilst keeping the most extreme differences furthest apart (so 5 all up). Typical lefties, reproducing the parliamentary liberalism that society is currently based on.
I suspect if you put three conservatives in a room you'd either get one dead, one too scared to talk, and one covered in blood... Or, three far right loonies calling for the death of all gay people, who all just had their first gay experience and plan to keep that fact secret.
Conservatives, they'll either kill something or fuck it, and either way they're gonna lie about it later.
who all just had their first gay experience
You mean because one of them (the one pushing for death to gay people) sexually assaulted the others? That’s my assumption and seems on brand.
No one hates extremists more than other extremists. Because they cannot decide on what they hate the most
People’s front of Judea or gtfo
Judean People's Front for life!
Splitters!
Oh, it will be for life all right...
“Let’s end this meeting on a high note.”
Mostly that works because what the establishment thinks of as left is really centralist. Real leftists would advocate for socialism.
Of course the US goes even further into the insane category by basically just having everyone be right-wing with different flavors.
Did you do that on purpose? Illustrate the truth of the joke by no-true-Scotsmaning leftism, I mean? Because if so, bravo, and if not, lol
Real leftists would advocate for socialism.
True, but there are there differing approaches to socialism: MLs want authoritarian socialism (government runs everything), while Democratic Socialists usually want a hybrid of market socialism (co-ops) and government run socialism for needs that free market co-ops cannot address. And then there are libertarian socialists who want only worker owned co-ops and syndicates. Finally, we have SocDems that want indirect socialism where strong regulations and labor protections try to achieve socialist goals through capitalism.
I consider myself quite a lefty, but really fall into the DemSoc range of things. Not far left enough for hexbear or .ml, and too far left for any other groups, really. I hate being so reluctant to post on .ml communities just to avoid a blanket ban, but it is what it is. Just kinda sucks.
Oh, so is my syndicalist ass a centrist? What about my mutualist wife? There’s the MLs vs the MLMs (who almost nuked each other). We managed to form two separate armies in most socialist revolutions
Those stories are so fake. "I used to be a leftist, then I was mildly annoyed by something. Now I'm ragingTrumpist!"
Same energy as born again Christians trying to convert me from atheism.
"I used to be you!"
No, you were a slightly less annoying version of you. You don't know me at all.
Sorry to dump this out here, but I have dealt with this shit since I was a teen and I'm mad tonight about some other shit.
That's because they think everyone who isn't hardcore christian is unhappy and questioning their choices every day, just waiting on god to help.
I'm hard agnostic. That doesn't mean I'm questioning. That means I believe that we can't possibly know any more than a bacteria can fathom what I am. They're convinced that means I'm not sure if their god exists and I desperately want them to show me the light.
You know how I know what they think? It's how I was raised. It's the literal words that came out of their mouths. Luckily it's been years since anyone other than a Jehovah's Witness tried to convert me to anything and I just tell them "I think god is dead so I'm trying to get on Satan's good side by having sex outside of marriage and killing. Which do you prefer?"
My aunt was an atheist turned born again Christian but that’s only because she took too much acid in the 70s and fried her brain
I’ve noticed tons of ex-alcohol/drug users take that route.
That's an interesting tactic that no Jehovah's witnesses tried with me. That one might actually work.
"I had different principles and values until someone hurt my feelings on the internet."
If you are a leftist it is sooo easy to troll other leftists. Right wingers are missing out on all the fun.
It’s true.
Rural gun owner leftist vs Seattle leftist. Cage match at 9pm central time.
Industrial worker in a union vs. woke college kid.
I'm in this picture, and I don't like it.
You are annoying me right now.
I would expect nothing less.
That’s it! I’m voting for Trump.
Just kidding, I already voted for Harris.
Literally annoyed right now because some dimwit fighting ghosts, saying that I was advocating for tolerance of right-wing fascism, because I said that the Balkanization strategy was not the strat in reply to a third individual's comment.
Also trying to say something about vulcanization, but idk what the chemical process of mixing rubber with sulfur has to do with geopolitics.
We must be flexible, hot, and kinda stinky in order to succeed at geopolitics duh
I just left the lefty memes instance because people were so far up their own asses, they couldn't tell you their own right hand from their left. Don't even ask them about the left/right political spectrum. Well, unless you want to get angry.
Thats because the right wing is way far over and a massively broad spectrum is leftist to them. they view themselves as center lol.
I felt that an upvote is not enough but I don't have a meaningful thing to comment so here is a jerma gif showing that I agree with your post:
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