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[-] ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 101 points 9 months ago

Intel is part of a small number of companies that are strategically important for the US to keep posturing in front of China and the EU, like Boeing or SpaceX.

Those companies know the US government will never let them fail: even if they're driven to bankruptcy by the most stupid management, they'll get taxpayer's money - i.e. OUR money - in the form of subsidies to bail them out.

Therefore, to answer your question, they need $8bn in subsidy because they deliberatively placed themselves in a position to request money from us that they know will be granted.

Hell, if I knew however much money I spent, someone would always foot the bill if I ran out, I too would spend like no tomorrow in order to get more money for free. It's plain logic.

[-] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 37 points 9 months ago

If they are too big to fail, then they need to be nationalized.

All of these companies have two things in common: they socialize risks and liabilities and privatize profits.

[-] SapphironZA@sh.itjust.works 9 points 9 months ago

Or be broken up.

[-] masterofn001@lemmy.ca 16 points 9 months ago

Boeing, space x, and Intel.

All terrific companies with excellent management and absolutely nothing bad about them whatsoever.

[-] skittle07crusher@sh.itjust.works 5 points 9 months ago

They once did a good thing that one time - and were American, at that moment at least. -Ish.

[-] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 13 points 9 months ago

Also they may have spent $158B on stock buybacks, but company is worth $96B. They lost a lot of money on those buybacks. Down about 70% over last 3 years.

[-] loutr@sh.itjust.works 8 points 9 months ago

Hell, if I knew however much money I spent, someone would always foot the bill if I ran out, I too would spend like no tomorrow in order to get more money for free. It's plain logic.

  • Why did $manager hire two more people? We don't need them, half the team has no idea what they're doing here and are just fucking around all day already.

  • Yeah but he still has some budget left, and if he doesn't spend it all next year he'll get less, and we can't have that.

[-] Captain_Baka@feddit.org 33 points 9 months ago

Because lobbyism (a.k.a. corruption).

[-] makingStuffForFun@lemmy.ml 25 points 9 months ago

Lobbying is bribery. Pure. Simple.

[-] RestrictedAccount@lemmy.world 13 points 9 months ago

You don’t understand.

Giving money to government officials is just a tip for appreciation and is completely legal

I wish I needed to add a /s, but it is objectively true:

https://www.omm.com/insights/alerts-publications/supreme-court-limits-reach-of-federal-bribery-law-applied-to-state-and-local-officials/

[-] Captain_Baka@feddit.org 5 points 9 months ago

Giving money to government officials is just a tip for appreciation and is completely legal

Yes it is, but it shouldn't be.

[-] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 33 points 9 months ago

Every two years the US votes for capitalists, then capitalist things happen, and people clutch their pearls as if this isn't precisely what they voted for.

[-] 01011@monero.town 10 points 9 months ago

It's not really a choice when it's the only option.

[-] granolabar@kbin.melroy.org 4 points 9 months ago

Why do you hate democracy?

[-] Szyler@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

Time to introduce the guillotine then

[-] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago

No, that's ridiculous. Americans have a first past the post, winner take all, voting system. And we have an electoral college.

This means that Americans never vote FOR president. Then only ever vote AGAINST who they hate most of the two real candidates.

[-] _bcron_@lemmy.world 22 points 9 months ago

One of the biggest pitfalls of buybacks is the piss-poor timing of them. You're doing good, flush with cash, and share prices are probably at a peak as a result. Shareholders would probably want to rake you over coals if you sat on cash and did nothing in order to weather a storm and perhaps do a buyback when the share prices are relatively undervalued, but you have fiduciary responsibility, so what do you do? Buy at the top and then get caught with your pants down when the shit hits the fan. Doing dumb shit to make shortsighted shareholders happy basically

[-] newthrowaway20@lemmy.world 20 points 9 months ago

They've been burning through multiple billions quarter over quarter during all those buybacks too. Sounds like poor leadership to me.

[-] leisesprecher@feddit.org 9 points 9 months ago

Not for the shareholders. And that's exactly the problem.

[-] Bluefalcon@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 9 months ago

Half for buybacks and half for executives, lobbyist, and other corrupt programs.

[-] granolabar@kbin.melroy.org 7 points 9 months ago

Parasites got it good. We pay them on both ends and they still price gouge us

[-] Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 9 months ago

Because otherwise, all this money would be wasted on the dissolute like homeless people or children.

[-] n3m37h@sh.itjust.works 4 points 9 months ago

That is 4.34 billion for each year

[-] granolabar@kbin.melroy.org 1 points 9 months ago

100 billion in the last 15 yeaes tho

[-] latenightnoir@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

Because MMMONEYYY!

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