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"Most of the world’s video games from close to 50 years of history are effectively, legally dead. A Video Games History Foundation study found you can’t buy nearly 90% of games from before 2010. Preservationists have been looking for ways to allow people to legally access gaming history, but the U.S. Copyright Office dealt them a heavy blow Friday. Feds declared that you or any researcher has no right to access old games under the Digital Millennium Copyright Act, or DMCA."

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[-] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 38 points 13 hours ago
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[-] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 118 points 18 hours ago

That's cool. Won't really stop any of the shit that's been happening though.

Good luck corpos, for every pirate you take away ten more will take their place.

hack the planet

[-] Fuzzy_Red_Panda@lemm.ee 29 points 17 hours ago

They're trashing our rights!

Hack the planet!

[-] rowinxavier@lemmy.world 7 points 9 hours ago
[-] teft@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago

Cereal towering over everyone trying to stay inconspicuous during that scene always cracks me up.

[-] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 5 points 15 hours ago

Guess I don't understand, are they saying places Like Vintage Stock that sells old games illegal? Or are they talking about digital backups of these games. Regardless fuck them and the copyright office. This makes me want to pirate more not less.

[-] noodlejetski@lemm.ee 18 points 13 hours ago

luckily there's more details to read when you click the link.

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[-] stoy@lemmy.zip 59 points 18 hours ago

Federal law does not apply to me as a Swede in Sweden.

[-] 0x0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 17 hours ago

Nor I, as a sovereign citizen in the United States.

[-] conc@lemmy.ml 16 points 12 hours ago

I'm not downloading it, the bits are travelling to my hard drive.

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[-] TheOctonaut@mander.xyz 16 points 15 hours ago

I do not wish to enjoinder with your Game Launcher and anonymous telephony

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[-] xep@fedia.io 99 points 19 hours ago
[-] Akasazh@feddit.nl 7 points 10 hours ago

And not a fun place to stay at at all

[-] beejjorgensen@lemmy.sdf.org 49 points 19 hours ago

I'd say it's more intolerably long copyright terms than the DMCA specifically.

[-] seaQueue@lemmy.world 43 points 19 hours ago

The DMCA is just the icing on top of the 95-120y "work for hire" copyright duration shit cake.

[-] henfredemars@infosec.pub 149 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

Industry groups argued that those museums didn’t have “appropriate safeguards” to prevent users from distributing the games once they had them in hand.

Good grief. Some of these games have been on the Internet longer than I have been alive. They are 100-fucking-percent already available on ROM sites. You're just shitting on people's enjoyment for the sake of shitting.

“The game industry’s absolutist position… forces researchers to explore extra-legal methods to access the vast majority of out-of-print video games that are otherwise unavailable,” the VGHF wrote.

The spice must flow, and I can assure you that it already does.

[-] el_bhm@lemm.ee 11 points 11 hours ago

Physical books have no safeguards from photocopying.

I have more terrifying news about museums. We are talking pictures worth MILLIONS just waiting to be photographed.

[-] magikmw@lemm.ee 8 points 12 hours ago

Wait till they hear of scanners and copy machines. The books aren't safe either!

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[-] ogeist@lemmy.world 66 points 19 hours ago

Industry groups argued that those museums didn’t have “appropriate safeguards” to prevent users from distributing the games once they had them in hand.

So libraries are also illegal? Books, DVDs, VHS, CDS, etc. You can replace games with any of those.

[-] bassomitron@lemmy.world 93 points 18 hours ago

They've been actively fighting libraries over the years, with renewed fervor in the last decade. As numerous others have pointed out before--including the article I linked--if libraries hadn't already been such a long-standing concept for centuries, they would 100% not be allowed to come into existence nowadays. Hyper greed has poisoned every facet of modern society.

[-] slaacaa@lemmy.world 20 points 15 hours ago

hyper greed

You misspelled neoliberal capitalism

[-] toastal@lemmy.ml 8 points 12 hours ago

Libraries are clearly communist… or anarchist… either way, I hate it!

[-] ArgentRaven@lemmy.world 28 points 17 hours ago

We used to rent these games from Blockbuster Video! On DVD when we had DVD burners and little to no drm! How did it suddenly not become acceptable?

[-] absquatulate@lemmy.world 21 points 14 hours ago

Lobbying. The greedy fucks will lobby until they get their way

[-] MIDItheKID@lemmy.world 40 points 18 hours ago

Industry groups argued that those museums didn’t have “appropriate safeguards” to prevent users from distributing the games once they had them in hand.

And what exactly is stopping me from scanning library books and uploading them online? Are you going to ban libraries too?

Actually, let's not give them ideas.

[-] henfredemars@infosec.pub 46 points 18 hours ago

They would love to ban libraries.

[-] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 7 hours ago

Isnt that what the InternetArchive did, disabled controlled lending during covid and got sued?

[-] T156@lemmy.world 22 points 15 hours ago

If they didn't already exist, it's doubtful they would have been legal to make.

[-] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago

basically "dont wanna pay us? fuck off"

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[-] cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de 62 points 20 hours ago

People will just continue pirating those games then.

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[-] Vaggumon@lemm.ee 53 points 19 hours ago

Yo ho ho and fuck the police

[-] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 9 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

In this case it's the corporate lawyers and lawmakers setting these precedents, not the police.

To be honest, as bad as police can be wherever you live, I'm sure if you called them and said your neighbour pirated The Simpsons Movie and some SNES games last night, they'd sooner laugh in your face and tell you to stop wasting their time than doing anything about it.

[-] xavier666@lemm.ee 4 points 14 hours ago

I too travel the seven seas for hidden loot ⛵

[-] reddig33@lemmy.world 45 points 19 hours ago

“Fair Use” is a thing. Someone needs to go back to law school.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_use

[-] lud@lemm.ee 3 points 10 hours ago

Notwithstanding the provisions of sections 17 U.S.C. § 106 and 17 U.S.C. § 106A, the fair use of a copyrighted work, including such use by reproduction in copies or phonorecords or by any other means specified by that section, for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching (including multiple copies for classroom use), scholarship, or research, is not an infringement of copyright. In determining whether the use made of a work in any particular case is a fair use the factors to be considered shall include:

  1. the purpose and character of the use, including whether such use is of a commercial nature or is for nonprofit educational purposes;
  2. the nature of the copyrighted work;
  3. the amount and substantiality of the portion used in relation to the copyrighted work as a whole; and
  4. the effect of the use upon the potential market for or value of the copyrighted work.

The fact that a work is unpublished shall not itself bar a finding of fair use if such finding is made upon consideration of all the above factors.

I'm no lawyer, but I can't really find a way that fair use is applicable in this case. Also point 4 is taken into consideration here. And no I obviously don't agree that games shouldn't be allowed in libraries. The law should be changed. I just don't see how fair use is relevant.

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[-] seaQueue@lemmy.world 40 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

Pearson is trying really fucking hard to write that out of the public consciousness. I took an econ 101 class about 12y ago for funsies and the section of the course on copyright insisted that "the rights of copyright owners" were absolute with no exemptions.

[-] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 17 points 18 hours ago

Of course, it's in their best interests to falsely educate.

IMO when it comes to educational books that are intended to be used within an educational system like a college, first amendment shouldn't apply. The entire purpose is to educate the public your freedom of speech interferes with facts. Should it be found that your books consciously represented misinformation, the company is automatically found at fault and must recall then replace all books at their own cost and be fined tens of thousands of dollars per book that remains after five years.

Should they fail to replace 80% of all sold books within those 5 years, the entire chain of command responsible will face prison terms no lower than one year.

There were so many textbooks I had through my years of education that were blatantly wrong.

I'm also looking at those schools who want to teach creationism in place of evolution. Can't misrepresent facts when the books you can use get recalled.

[-] desktop_user@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 12 hours ago

how do the rights of the copyright holders interact with CCTV?

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[-] shoulderoforion@fedia.io 37 points 20 hours ago

you can't stop the signal, mal

[-] Hackworth@lemmy.world 28 points 20 hours ago
[-] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 17 points 20 hours ago

It aint the country doing this per se... It is the ownrr class using the state against the slaves. Again

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[-] Telorand@reddthat.com 8 points 17 hours ago

Alright. Now enforce it. Good luck with that.

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[-] m3t00@lemmy.world 15 points 20 hours ago

good emulators out there. haven't tried any lately

[-] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 17 hours ago

Hell yeah. Everything “retro” is easily emulated. And anything easily emulated has a ROMpack of all of the games that exist for it, you can download if you have a HDD that costs less than the cost of the original console alone.

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