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submitted 1 year ago by Jfqs6m@lemmy.world to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

I joined Lemmy a few weeks before the API change. I loved the conversations. I loved how the content was slower but more engaging, and less politically charged. There was nobody shitting on Elon Musk, or Twitter, or Reddit.

People were having meaningful, engaging conversations about random stupid memes. It felt like the early days of the internet... It felt like a small community of outcasts that all got together and posted shitty memes for the sake of giving someone else a feed of shitty memes to scroll through while they were taking a shit... Or not taking a shit, apparently...

But now that the Reddit API change happened... It's like the super toxic part of Reddit was skimmed off the top and sent our way.

Every popular post is negatively charged. Every comment has an underpinning of hate. Everything is spun with some time of agenda that feeds half truths to make it look like whole lies.

What happened here? I thought this place was supposed to be better then Reddit? To not have some corporate overlord algorithm controlling us as part of some toxic hivemind?

Does anybody know of a Lemmy instance that has been spared from this proto-molecule outbreak?

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[-] 8565@lemmy.quad442.com 72 points 1 year ago

Sounds like your subscribed to some toxic communities. I dont have that problem at all

[-] Jfqs6m@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I'm generally looking at all, so maybe that's my problem. I am finding it hard to find smaller communities that might interest me, but maybe it's the app I'm using (Jerboa).

Any recommendations? Either specific communities or tips for finding some?

[-] TeaHands@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago

Get on lemmyverse.net, search for your interests, build your subscription feed. Stop looking at All, and if you do insist on doing it at least block the communities that are making you mad.

[-] cats@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

A strategy that has worked for me: very quickly browsing all new, just looking at community names. I barely look at the posts, just make a quick decision if it sounds interesting to me. I’ll check the sidebar and decide from there to subscribe or not. I’ve found dozens to follow and a bunch to block lol. It’s cleaning up my feed pretty nicely and my home page has a lot of content now.

[-] Tundra@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
  • Open up jerboa + your browser,

  • On the browser, visit: https://browse.feddit.de/

  • Search for the subjects/communities that you are interested in.

  • Long press (mobile) on the title and select open in app.

  • The jerboa app will load the community and you can subscribe.

[-] galloog1@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I agree that All has changed. I was browsing this morning and made the same comment before realizing I wasn't looking at my subscribed feed.

[-] 8565@lemmy.quad442.com 1 points 1 year ago

I host my own instance so My all is my subscribed and vice versa

[-] this_is_router@feddit.de 27 points 1 year ago

concern trolling: be the change you want to see, instead of creating even more drama

[-] Jfqs6m@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I try to be generally positive when commenting, but I'm usually not a poster... Not sure how questioning the direction of the masses is creating drama, but I guess they have spoken on the matter...

[-] this_is_router@feddit.de 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

What happened here? I thought this place was supposed to be better then Reddit?

Every popular post is negatively charged.

Every comment has an underpinning of hate.

Everything is spun with some time of agenda that feeds half truths to make it look like whole lies.

questions and statements like this are creating drama. block users and communities that you don't like and go with your day.

[-] goji@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

I used to think of “blocking” as an extreme measure, but for us individuals, it’s really not. You get to decide what your feed looks like. Especially here.

BAMO -> block and move on

What flipped the mental switch for me was facebook, of all places.

I hate it and was off it for years, then we moved to a small town with no subreddit, only a damn fb group. Man I went on a blocking spree with all the proudly terrible people, and now I have both an actually useful local town group AND a separate handy list of people I don’t need to bother meeting.

[-] jcb2016@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

You must be in the wrong subs. I see nothing about Reddit except post like this 😬😬

[-] Emperor@feddit.uk 14 points 1 year ago

I suspect the problem is you are on lemmy.world and that has become the default instance so everyone is trying to duplicate Reddit on there. So your "all" is becoming the hellscape that was the Reddit front page (perhaps worse as there's no filtering algorithm).

Meanwhile, I'm on a smaller instance and my interactions with lemmy.world are through communities I have joined on here. So my "all" and subscribed feeds are fine.

So find yourself either a regional instance or one that reflects your interests and move there (there are scripts that will make this straightforward). You'll probably start enjoying the threadiverse experience again.

[-] hsl@wayfarershaven.eu 4 points 1 year ago

This is exactly why I started my own instance: I decided that I wanted the local and also possibly the all views to be something I wanted to read. The larger instances are just so big and generic that that isn't possible.

[-] elkaki@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 year ago

I don't experience that tbh, I do notice that there are a lot of negative posts but that is do to the anti meta/threats circlejerk that was a bit strong this past week, and the week before it was all about how reddit is so bad now that people have migrated (another negativity fueled circlejerk), but these were more present on big communities that I saw when I browsed by /all, the small communities I frequent are still as good as they were if not better do to them growing and being a lot more active.

(just in case, the account is new but I have been browsing for like a month, its just vlemmy went down)

[-] rufus@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Wow. Considering your down-votes and some of the comments: Seems most of the people don't understand what you're trying to say.

But you're right. Everything on lemmy has changed drastically. Including the tone, how people interact with each other, ...

I like to compare this to the time people went from twitter to mastodon. that caused all sorts of misunderstandings and culture clashes. But lemmy was kind of small, much smaller than mastodon was. so the culture that was here a few weeks ago is just gone. the thousands or millions of people that came here barely noticed the few people and posts that were already there.

give it some time. let things settle. i get what you're saying. they just arrived, scream at each other, are generally just loud and have strange manners from the perspective of someone who deliberately avoided reddit before. but this isn't necessarily a bad thing. we can have meaningful conversations, niche communities etc even if there are now many more loud people with a completely different style on this platform. it won't ever be the same, though. precedent from the early days of the internet is: a large influx of 'normal people' will destroy your communities. but i'm hopeful for the future. this definitely is a chance to spread something nice to a lot of people. we have to establish a healthy culture now. but that's doable.

[-] ratboy@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I haven't really noticed that, but I also haven't dug into the comments too much recently. But, of course if thousands upon thousands of redditors jump onto this platform it's going to change the culture. Maybe try beehaw.org. they are.known for blocking a ton of instances but i think it's heavily moderated towards people being trolls.

It's my hope that a lot of the people who want to turn lemmy into reddit will get bored and leave since the interface isn't as convenient as reddit

[-] Kururin@talk.kururin.tech 4 points 1 year ago

Not sure what planet you living in but I been having a blast here. Can’t compare Lemmy to being Reddit lmao.

[-] bstix@feddit.dk 3 points 1 year ago

I agree. It seems that many want to recreate reddit subreddits, commentary quirks and everything else including all the faults.

I think/hope that the reddit cloning will balance out eventually.

Currently people are basically throwing shit at the walls to see what sticks.

[-] supermurs@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

Sorry to hear about your experiences mate, I haven't seen such behaviour yet on Lemmy.

[-] moosh@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Eh, I’ve been enjoying lemmy. Tbf, a lot of the newcomers are here because Reddit and Spez shat the bed. Of course it’s going to start to feel like Reddit if the people that were most active on Reddit come here because they were what made Reddit, Reddit, if you catch my jist.

[-] muddybulldog@mylemmy.win 2 points 1 year ago

This is probably the best upside of running a semi-private/personal instance. While I’ve taken steps to overpopulate /all it’s still doesn’t contain any garbage communities. If one happens to slip through it’s a quick fix to eradicate it.

[-] moosh@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Eh, I’ve been enjoying lemmy. Tbf, a lot of the newcomers are here because Reddit and Spez shat the bed. Of course it’s going to start to feel like Reddit if the people that were most active on Reddit come here because they were what made Reddit, Reddit, if you catch my jist.

[-] Candelestine@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

That "hivemind" is just people. If you want to hide from it, you need a place where they can't find you. That is not a Fediverse that seeks to provide an alternative to the major social media networks.

Fortunately, the Fediverse can accommodate you, but you'll have to work for it. You need to find an Instance that has that kind of culture you're looking for, that closer, cooler, tighter-knit one.

But you can't ask the whole service to stay that one way that makes you happy. That's not fair to the rest of the world, no matter how much one may dislike it.

Don't just find somewhere that feels nice, find one where they intend to stay that way.

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