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Green politicians from across Europe on Friday called on U.S. Green Party presidential candidate Jill Stein to withdraw from the race for the White House and endorse Democrat Kamala Harris instead.

“We are clear that Kamala Harris is the only candidate who can block Donald Trump and his anti-democratic, authoritarian policies from the White House,” Green parties from countries including Germany, France, Denmark, Italy, the Netherlands, Ireland, Estonia, Belgium, Spain, Poland and Ukraine said in a statement, which was shared with POLITICO ahead of publication

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[-] DMCMNFIBFFF@lemmy.world -1 points 37 minutes ago

a post I made earlier:

If Harris loses California, New York, Massachusetts, Maryland, Connecticut, Hawaii, Vermont, DC, or Maine-1 because of vote-splitting by Stein, it will be Harris’s fault. If you’re voting in these states, you might as well vote your heart.

https://lemmy.world/post/21147692

[-] spyd3r@sh.itjust.works 11 points 3 hours ago

European Greens must be dumb as fuck then, because the US Green party exists to:

Get

Republicans

Elected

Every

November

[-] rusticus@lemm.ee 73 points 8 hours ago

Jill Stein is funded by Russia. Every multicellular organism knows this by now.

[-] vanontom@lemmy.world 8 points 2 hours ago

Yup, even my friend Fred the Fungi was just yapping about this, told me to follow the money.

[-] shadowfax13@lemmy.ml -5 points 1 hour ago

any proof ? and are we to ignore the dnc has significant funding from aipac to enable them to murder kids with our tax money ?

[-] SarcasticMan@lemmy.world 207 points 15 hours ago

Haha they must be new to this, Jill Stein isn't running for president, she is running to split the vote like they paid her to.

[-] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 72 points 15 hours ago

Of course they know that. They're saying this to make exactly this point. While the average US voter will be entirely unaware of and oblivious to what some pinkos from cheese eating surrender monkey land say, potential green voters just might take notice.

[-] SarcasticMan@lemmy.world 22 points 14 hours ago

If they haven't already, they won't.

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[-] zanyllama52@infosec.pub -4 points 3 hours ago

Third party candidates. The real threat to america. /s

Will she get any votes? Tune in next time on Election Ball Z!

[-] AlecSadler@sh.itjust.works 9 points 3 hours ago

No joke, I know two people voting for her because they believe it demonstrates people want a third choice. Sigh.

[-] Etterra@lemmy.world 4 points 2 hours ago

So they're delusional idiots.

[-] smayonak@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

If they live in swing states they are.

Ideally third party candidates could get concessions from either Republicans or democrats in exchange for an endorsement. Kennedy got some completely insane concessions from trump for example.

But Stein hasn't been reported to have asked the dems for anything. Which means the green party is trying to get trump elected. My guess is that Stein got concessions from trump to stay in the race.

[-] shadowfax13@lemmy.ml -4 points 1 hour ago

and they are very much right. current dnc is more pathetic that any republican govt before. they could have won it by landslide by having aoc or even just putting even symbolic sanctions on israel. but they don’t to set a precedent that people’s opinion can be taken into account. instead they continue spitting on us forcing lobbyists controlled genocider to spit on their voters. not everyone is going to fall for this trick third time in a row.

[-] Intergalactic@lemmy.world 78 points 15 hours ago

Good. I was apart of the Green Party, I left when I learned they were planning of running a candidate this year, when internally, we were floating around the idea of NOT running a candidate.

[-] scytale@lemm.ee 14 points 14 hours ago

That's interesting insider info. Was the reason for not fielding a candidate because of this particular issue (splitting the vote)?

[-] Intergalactic@lemmy.world 24 points 14 hours ago

Can’t say exactly, it was just floated around, I’m guessing it was for that specific reason, but that was around the time I was thinking of leaving for other reasons, they are VERY unorganized as a party and it really, really bothered me. The way smaller Transhumanist Party seems more organized than the Green Party.

IDK if I really want to know but I can imagine a mid-to-far-left party like the greens would have a lot of disparity in the views of members.

[-] Wrench@lemmy.world 19 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Probably because running a presidential candidate is a waste of money unless your intent is to split the vote.

Start local, gain influence, work your way up.

Edit - to those downvoting, the Green Party literally has zero representation, even at the State level. And you want to jump straight to POTUS. Riiight.

Get one state senate seat. Get one House of Representatives seat. Get some kind of representation. Then you have a bargaining chip.

[-] Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

The threat of splitting the vote is a good reason to run, if you feel like your position isn't being taken seriously enough AND that it's important enough that everything else is worth losing.

The problem is that the majority of the Democrats are on board with green initiatives. The only holdup on the $10T program before was Manchin. She has now pivoted RCV, or more specifically destroying the duopoly because they are the enemy for "reasons".

Also, she's said that she wouldn't pull out even if the Dems gave her what she wanted. So it doesn't really work as a threat either.

[-] jj4211@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

Eh, threatening to split the vote might in theory get some campaign promises, but such promises are likely to evaporate when things get down to it.

Meanwhile if you actually hold a persistent presence in the house or senate, particularly when it's close, you got ongoing leverage. Hell, folks like AOC, MTG, Boebert have an absurd amount of national influence for being elected by merely a singular district.

[-] aaaa@lemmy.world 55 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

Isn't it too late for it to matter? At this point, she's on the ballots that she's on, isn't she?

Especially for states like Oregon that are primarily vote by mail. I already have my ballot, and Stein withdrawing won't keep people from voting for her

[-] dogslayeggs@lemmy.world 31 points 15 hours ago

Yes, her name is already on the ballots, like RFK Jr is still on the ballots in many states, but the hope is her supporters will listen to her endorsement. Just because a person's name is on the ballot doesn't force people to vote for that person. Some people have voted already, some will continue to vote for her out of protest, some will continue to vote for her because they didn't hear she dropped out or didn't care. But the hope is enough people will hear that she dropped out and endorsed Harris that their votes will come through for Harris.

What a shit show, honestly.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 15 points 13 hours ago

When I went to vote last week and saw RFK Jr.'s name was still on the Indiana ballot, I burst out laughing.

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[-] dogslayeggs@lemmy.world 35 points 15 hours ago

Response from Jill: Can you outbid Putin?

[-] eran_morad@lemmy.world 20 points 15 hours ago

lolbruh. she takes her orders from putin.

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