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  • poor leftists talk about poverty, labor aristocrats get uncomfortable and insist that sociological classes aren't materialist. "all that matters is that we're working class - we're all in this together"

  • black leftists talk about racism, whites get uncomfortable and insist that they're not personally part of the problem. "we mustn't allow the bourgeois to divide the proletariat along racial lines - we're all in this together"

  • female leftists talk about patriarchy, men get uncomfortable and insist that it hurts them too. "this men vs women stuff is reductive anyway - we're all in this together"

  • third world leftists talk about imperialism, americoids get uncomfortable and insist that red white and blue lives matter too. "what happened to the international working class - we're all in this together"

you don't have to invite yourself to every form and experience of oppression. anyone with a baby's consciousness of intersectionality ought to be capable of admitting when they have privilege

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[-] UnicodeHamSic@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago

On the one hand capitlaism is the problem. So unless we fix thst the other problems aren't fixable. On the other hand almost any group to have real success organizing came from a special interest focus like that. So there are two wolves here both of them secretly liberals

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[-] Facebones@reddthat.com 15 points 1 year ago

I DO think that all these hurt individuals of the "oppressive class" as well as the oppressed

But yeah sometimes it's stfu time

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if all we're doing is talking about stuff, and pushing back on other people who want us to talk about stuff differently, I don't know what we think we're gonna accomplish.

[-] Grimble@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago

Show us your brilliant takes then, SkibidiToiletFanAcct

[-] pillow@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago

if your response to being told that you have an incorrect view is to counter that it's all just talk, u are not taking this seriously

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[-] Catradora_Stalinism@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

A black professor of mine (really cool guy his class has us read Wretched of the Earth) told me why he doesn't go near communism anymore is because every time he tried to engage with marxists in america, they were these fucking morons.

It is actively alienating people we should be listening to and working with. I have no respect for the left here, they don't deserve it.

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