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I asked if people chose iPhone for the blue bubbles elsewhere a couple days ago, and while there was some good discourse on that post, the blue bubbles definitely also came up as a reason.

In my experience, when people find out my texts are green, they oftentimes would rather switch to a different platform altogether like Instagram or just not text at all.

Is this actually a deal-breaker in friendships out there?

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[-] shoomba@lemmy.sdf.org 307 points 1 year ago

If they don’t want to text you because you don’t have an iPhone they’re not friends you want to have.

[-] AnonymousLlama@kbin.social 56 points 1 year ago

Seen this sentiment that green bubbles = bad a few times online but never it's never come up for me. I assume this is a teen - early adult specific issue where the idea is mostly to be part of the group

[-] deweydecibel@lemmy.world 59 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's been happening in high schools, to the point teens are bullied and pushed out of peer groups if they have Androids. It's frankly disgusting that apple willingly creates this division to profit off teenagers bullying each other, and they don't get called out for it enough.

But in the larger picture, it's definitely going to be more common among the young, because iPhones themselves are ubiquitous among the younger. It's something the tech space is slowly starting realize: Apple has almost total market dominance among the rising demographic, and this has led to increasing tech illiteracy due to the way Apple designs its software, and inability/refusal to learn anything else. That is a huge problem for the tech industry when the only thing they can do to find customers is dumb their software down to appeal to people that don't know how to use anything other than iOS

[-] ABCDE@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago

Perhaps in the US but it's not so pronounced elsewhere. I think I only know one person with an iPhone.

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[-] eee@lemm.ee 31 points 1 year ago

If anybody wants to judge me based on the brand of electronics I use, my favorite band or the brand of clothes I wear, I have no interest in interacting with them lol. This whole consumerist worship-culture is just toxic.

[-] Auduras@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The worst thing you can do as a consumer is be (blindly) loyal to a brand.

E.g. I like Columbia jackets, footwear, outdoor wear, etc. If however their quality goes down, or there is another comparable product that happens to be on sale (and assuming I like the look/style) I wouldn't NOT get it because it isn't a Colombia product.

[-] Prethoryn@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago

I am an Android user but this comment should be taken very lightly. As this is not the cause the truth is that Apple is at fault here for still using SMS as the default messaging protocol. However, with that being said, SMS breaks messages on iPhone and the devices have been geared towards iPhone users in away that makes it seem like Android is the issue with image quality and texting. The marketing is excellent on Apple's end towards the competition and it is working.

However, that doesn't mean iPhone isn't the problem. I have a sibling who got bullied for having an iPhone. Apple's answer to these problems is just, "get an iPhone." This is equivalent to, "can't figure it out? Just Google it." The problem with this mentality is it gives more power to monopolizing platforms. Apple is a growing giant and if they had their way you would just have an iPhone and if Apple has expressed anything in the past 8 years it's that they aren't exactly the innovators with mobile devices anymore. To me the problem is on an iPhone nothing would change.

A little irrelevant rant but my point is that the average iPhone consumer has been given a marketing ploy so it is a deal breaker because they think it is an issue and in all fairness it is one but only Google is trying to fix. Issue is that Google should have tried to fix it years ago. You can't blame iPhone users for wanting to use other platforms to message you if your message is compressed heavily by Apple's shitty and stupid fucking decision to keep using SMS to control the market. The care about user experience is overshadowed by the desire to use that as a means to make money off of a user that doesn't understand messaging protocols. Fuck Apple.

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[-] habanhero@lemmy.world 109 points 1 year ago

Yes, but it's a feature, not a bug.

It's a super low investment and quick way to identify people you should avoid.

[-] Lazylazycat@lemmy.world 92 points 1 year ago

I think this must be a cultural thing because no one in the UK sends SMS messages. Everyone just uses WhatsApp or signal or telegram. I'm android and have literally never had anyone mention the colour of my bubble. I didn't know this was a thing!

[-] magic_lobster_party@kbin.social 68 points 1 year ago

I think it’s mostly an US thing. The rest of the world has moved away from SMS.

[-] deweydecibel@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

It's mostly a US thing because Android is the standard pretty much everywhere except the US.

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[-] Th4tGuyII@kbin.social 19 points 1 year ago

Yeah, this is definitely a US-centric thing. Almost nobody I know (UK) uses SMS as their default, it's usually the last resort before just ringing the person.

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[-] RealNooshie@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

I'm from the US and people are using SMS less and less I feel like (though again, I'm biased because Android). Even most of my networking for work is done on Instagram, which to me is incredibly bizarre.

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[-] ttmrichter@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Wait, this is over SMS!?!? How quaint! I haven't seen anybody use an SMS for anything outside of spam in years!

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[-] Switorik@lemmy.fmhy.ml 71 points 1 year ago

I don't understand the apple cult. I've tried their phones. I prefer Android phones.

I have heard of some people who think non apple users are subpar, but those are the ones you want to avoid.

[-] saltesc@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago

I worked for Apple for about 4 years and few people had Apple devices, despite the discount. I was supplied an iMac and MacBook Pro, but also a Windows PC and notebook that most work was done on because of software support. Most employees were obviously into their tech, so Android was by far the most popular for mobile devices. I remember a guy with a Windows phone.

No one judged, though. Having obviously used a lot of gadgets extensively, people understood that people land on what they like the most and there's no right or wrong with personal opinion.

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[-] kadu@lemmy.world 64 points 1 year ago

In some social circles, yes. Teenagers tend to cling into anything that could potentially be interpreted as a social status symbol or group identity - in the US, for some bizarre reason, people still use the default messaging app and SMS so iMessage and it's "green vs blue bubble" design immediately fills this space. This can also show up in very shallow dating scenes, like someone using Tinder and just looking for a random hook up with a nice dinner beforehand - they could see the iPhone as a sign of wealth and available money to spend.

But for most adults, living normal lives... I don't think so. At least, never have been an issue with any of my friends, family members, academic peers, coworkers...

[-] NewNewAccount@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

in the US, for some bizarre reason

Is it really that bizarre to use the default messaging app that uses the most widespread protocol(s)?

[-] kadu@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yes? SMS is ancient, limited, and Apple's added proprietary layer on top of it isn't interoperable so "most widespread protocol" doesn't even make sense.

There's a reason Asia, Europe and South America aren't using SMS in 2023.

And you know, it's a smartphone, installing apps is kinda the whole point.

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[-] sauerbraten42@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago

Maybe not bizarre, but I think the regional differences are just intereting. I am living in central europe and I honestly don't know anyone who used SMS in the last 5-10 years. The only reason to use it is when your data ran out.

[-] eggest@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago

Yeah my last 52 texts are all from companies about my orders or my bills etc. No actual humans use SMS anymore

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[-] Sebastrion@lemmy.fmhy.ml 32 points 1 year ago

I never had a IPhone but if they don't Text you because you don't use a IPhone... That sounds crazy.

[-] Enasni@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago

iPhone user here, no. I don’t care what other people use and I really find the Android vs iPhone debate both done-to-death and incredibly boring. Most often, from both sides, it’s just people (kids most likely) stroking their own egos in an attempt to argue with someone and feel superior.

I use an android tablet currently for art. I’m very familiar with android and even some degree of programming knowledge. It’s great. My iPhone is just as good in that it does what I need it to do and I understand other people don’t feel the same, which is absolutely fine.

Fuck blue bubbles lmao that’s some cult shit tbh.

Oh also, Memmy is amazing.

[-] stanford@lemm.ee 20 points 1 year ago

In my experience, no, especially outside of the US.

In many places/countries, there are more android than iphone users. This is especially true in developing countries, but also some developed ones too. It's not uncommon for everyone in these areas to use alternative messaging platform like whatsapp, telegram, or line, so there was barely any difference between android and iphone.

So it's barely a deal-breaker, at least, in this scenario.

[-] ChatGPT@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

It’s not a dealbreaker for me but I try to push everyone I can to Signal anyway more secure and private than iMessage.

[-] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 year ago

Only for idiots.

[-] Mane25@feddit.uk 15 points 1 year ago

Maybe it's a US vs Europe thing but as a European, most messaging (for better or worse, probably worse since it's Meta) is done via whatsapp, where messages appear the same for iPhone and Android users, if somebody messages me through SMS I'd probably think it was a scam or they're really old, no-one I know uses SMS anymore.

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[-] Galaxyboy_3598@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

This is mainly an issue in the United States and Canada.

[-] McBinary@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Right. Android is still 70%+ of the world market.

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[-] Froody@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

People that buy Apple are some of the most superficial beings on this planet.

Who gives a fuck about text bubbles?

Find friends that aren't so shallow.

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[-] lolola@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

One of my acquaintances started a fairly large group text thread recently. Somewhere along the way someone said, "Who's the android user in here ruining everything?" I never said anything in the thread, so I felt like I was in the corner of a crowded room wearing a disguise about to be exposed.

I was also pretty annoyed. Like, what's it matter? Texts are for text. Text works fine.

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[-] weariedfae@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Wait..when people say the blue bubbles they're talking about text? I thought it was the live wallpaper!

Can apple people not change the color of their text chat bubbles? I changed mine so long ago I don't even know what the default is.

[-] lando55@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

Just in case you're not joking - the blue bubbles in the iOS Messages app denote that the text was sent via iMessage, vs SMS which show up in green.

iMessages typically send over WiFi rather than cellular (but can do both) and offer extended functionality like read receipts, Tapback replies (think like a thumbs up or laugh), integration with FaceTime, Freeform, and other iOS features.

You tend to notice when people aren't using iMessage around the holidays when mass texts to Android/iOS users include things like, "weariedfae laughed at lando55 laughed at joedonuts surprised at alansmithee's message."

[-] dandroid@dandroid.app 9 points 1 year ago

You tend to notice when people aren't using iMessage around the holidays when mass texts to Android/iOS users include things like, "weariedfae laughed at lando55 laughed at joedonuts surprised at alansmithee's message."

The funniest part about this is that Android is immune to this issue. These texts automatically get turned into reaction emojis. We don't even see them. We just see reactions like we would normally.

Though I wish Apple would just use RCS instead of SMS, which is an open standard that has most of the features iMessage has. Then we wouldn't even have this problem.

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[-] art@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

The green color that Apple chose for SMS was picked because of how harsh it is on the eyes. They want you to hate talking to non Apple users.

[-] dandroid@dandroid.app 14 points 1 year ago

That was the original color before iMessage existed.

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[-] Transcendant@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Don't care about bubble colours, tbf I can probably change that with Android... user modification like this is one of the reasons I prefer it.

With iPhone, once you have one Apple device, your entire device ecosystem has to be a part of the same walled garden... or they don't play nice with each other. Also, imo while Apple devices are often good quality, they massively overcharge for it (considering the cost to assemble and produce the hardware).

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[-] FxtrtTngoWhisky@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

If you think you're better than me because you have an iPhone and I run an Android, I don't want to talk to you anyway.

People are so fucking petty and elitist over the dumbest fucking things.

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[-] AncillaryJustice@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

This is some sort of childish tech-classist B.S. Like you wouldn't talk to a friend because of the shoes they wore or the car they drove. Who cares about people like that?

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[-] Wander@yiffit.net 7 points 1 year ago

Not to mention that any problems caused by green bubble lack of compatibility are Apple's fault, not Android's.

[-] deweydecibel@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

There's a podcast I listen to where the LA comedians routinely use Android as a punchline, while clearly having very little understanding of it. They talk about android users as if they're this bizarre group of social outcasts and libertarians. Tech isn't the topic of the podcast, it's just something I notice any time Android comes up during improv or something. Like this is a well they routinely fall back on. And a lot of guests seem to think something similar.

So I believe there is a weird stigma, but it exists in certain areas more than others. LA is iPhone country, lot of people there see Android as some subpar aberration.

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