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Everyone I know uses WhatsApp, and they're not childish enough for carrying about green or blue bubbles. So weird.
If they do just move on. It's nice of them to display their red flags like that
Right? Anyone judging a person based on the phone they use is not the kind of person you would ever want I your life. Bullet freaking dodged.
Send them a thank you card and never think of them again.
Most of the world uses WhatsApp, and it does not matter if you have iPhone or Android. Are you in the USA? I hear it is the only country where people use apple messages so much that it matters.
As an iPhone user, whenever I'm in a group chat with one or more Android users, sending images tends to time out and fail to send for whatever reason. Also video sometimes is very tiny. In those cases I'd rather use another app for a smoother experience for everyone.
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Green texts are the worst mostly because (I’m convinced) apple has programmed Messages to intentionally lose them to make group texts with android users a nightmare to deal with, in an attempt at social pressure on android users to get an iPhone.
They are wildly inconsistent in their delivery success. Often times texts will either never go through to some members of the group or go through at random times. Also sent videos are always horribly compressed. Obvious solution would be to use a third party messaging app but but convincing everyone to do that is usually a nonstarter.
What it is though is green texts are just sms messages, which is the original text message protocol that uses cellular infrastructure to deliver the message. Blue texts are sent via the Messages app over the internet so they are likely just more reliable and quick to deliver.
I don't care much about iMessage. All the people I know who are not an iPhone users use facebook messenger and cry about how bad quality sending pictures and videos are. But do nothing to change that. Thats the problem. I was going though hell to convince my girlfriend to use Signal to chat with me. Because she is an Android user. I hate FB, Insta, WhatsApp and all that stuff.
Yeah I've been looking for a while for an app to switch to. All those messenger apps sucks so much. They all seems to be going to shit everyday we use them.
Should I try Signal ?
Signal is the best in regards to privacy.
Signal uses the same E2E encryption as WhatsApp and is also not Open-Source. One could argue that not being owned by Meta makes it inherently more private, to which I would somewhat agree.
The most private Messaging-App would be some kind of federated Chat, like Jabber or Matrix, that you or a collection of family/friends can self-host.
Unfortunately, nobody uses those ¯\(ツ)/¯
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I honestly get it. Apple has been excruciatingly stubborn to adopt RCS.
But they won't. Because they want users to be pissed off enough to get an iPhone.
That being said, I don't think it's worth hating iOS over. Or vise versa, iOS users just being petty and not texting you because you have an Android. Kinda off topic but the internet loves to shit on Apple.....
Meanwhile I'm over here with a Galaxy S20, iPhone 11 Pro, MacBook Pro, and a mid range Dell laptop running Windows 10.
Also incredibly off topic, but IMO both Logic Pro and Final Cut Pro are superior to anything you can find on Windows. FL Studio comes close though. I hear Abelton Live is good too.
I'm just saying both platforms do the same things very well, and both platforms do some things better than eachother. Troubleshooting on Mac is a breeze whereas on Windows it's god awful. The UI on macOS is so much more consistent than Windows.
Windows has better platform support and doesn't depreciate APIs nearly as much as macOS. (Then again, DirectX 12 dropped support for Windows 7.....WHY).
The file explorer on Windows, while not as pretty, gives you much more control over the Finder in macOS. Windows gives you better user control over Disk Management too IMO. And of course, Windows is better for gaming. That might change over the next 5 years though which I am very happy about.
Also, the Control Panel is fucking awesome and I have no idea why Microsoft continues to try and depreciate it for the trashy Settings app. It has everything you need.
Bit of a rant there.
I honestly get it. Apple has been excruciatingly stubborn to adopt RCS.
I think in the past this was excusable because RCS has been such a moving target. First it was the carriers disagreeing about how to implement, and dragging their feet, then Google got tired of waiting for carriers and sort of bypassed them. But even then RCS is messy when it's part carrier, part Google, etc. Even Google Fi doesn't support RCS if you want its text-from-computer function working! Then came e2e encryption, which has been haphazard.
At this point though, it is starting to solidify. Apple should implement it, and if Apple drags their feet, regulators should intervene. Don't rule out that happening in the EU, either.
I feel like if regulators are going to intervene, we should be expecting something better than RCS though. Most of RCS's problems have happened because there was nobody with enough pull to get anyone to agree to anything more extensive, so we ended up with a slightly upgraded MMS. iMessage is a lot more than just upgraded MMS, it has payment options, polls, games, interactive applets, and anything else that someone wants to make a plug in to add on to it. And the gap goes beyond messaging, Apple also has proprietary standards for airdrop, video calls, ultrawideband, location tracking (although that's getting slightly better), and basically any other way that two devices can communicate with each other.
I don't want regulators to force apple to adopt RCS, I want a cohesive standard for all of the ways that apple has broken device communications, and RCS doesn't even start to cover that. The only things that do really cover everything is IM apps like facebook messenger or whatsapp, so what we really need is for phones messaging apps to become IP based IM apps. Maybe even something where each IM app can federate with all of the others
I think if you try to have regulators come up with standards for things like airdrop or location sharing, it's going to be a bad time.
RCS you can just regulate as a telecom feature. It's contained. It doesn't touch things like finance (which vary by country).
Regulators don't even necessarily come up with the standards themselves, they just need to enforce that companies need to make their services interoperable. Actually creating the standard should probably be up to a collaboration of apple, google, and other relevant parties, but regulators should just enforce that it needs to happen
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People that use Apple messaging are clearly lost and don't know good software exists.
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This is so American...
"Let me send an SMS, while I ride my horse to go to my bank and do other things that people used to do in 1870."
"Oh, their SMS color is different! I dislike people with a different color than me."
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Wait, so people decide on a phone based of OS because of blue or green chat message colors? This is the first time I'm hearing this, is this something more of a USA thing or does this apply to other ocuntries as well?
Buying a phone based on chat bubble color seems something that occurs in a toxic society, where you are judged based on phone model. And why do they then change to an other platform to write you?
I never had a discussion about Andriod or IPhone based on this parameter, it was more about UI, services and design of the phone. To be fair we all use third party messengers like Signal or Threema.
It's a US thing. It took european carriers a very long time to offer unlimited texts (especially across borders) which in turn helped apps like Whatsapp, Signal, Telegram. iPhones display messages/SMS from non-iPhones in green bubbles. Pictures sent from non-iPhones are displayed in lower resolutions because Apple doesn't support some standard or smth.
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It's not about the color of the bubbles, it's about SMS vs. iMessage. SMS/MMS is outdated, slow, and limited; nobody should be using it anymore. iMessage is fast and feature-rich; arguably the best chat platform that exists, but it only works from one Apple device to another. Apple uses its position (50 percent of the U.S. smartphone market) to alienate anyone not using their hardware by rolling back to SMS when communicating with a non-iOS/MacOS device. This happens behind the scenes, all directly from the same Messages application. So from the iPhone user's perspective, they're either getting a fantastic experience (blue bubbles) or the absolute worst one (green bubbles) and it's all dependent on what the other person is using.
It's by design. Apple wants the default experience between an iPhone and an Android to be uncomfortable. And getting 125 million American iPhone users to use a different chat application is impossible since they have a truly premium experience with iMessage to iMessage communication.
I use Android with Snapdragon processors to be able to unlock bootloader and flash a custom ROM. This allows me to get Google goodies, even those which current Pixels and any other device, be it an Android or an iPhone, lack. For example: Unlimited original quality photo and video uploads to Google Photos. Regarding your bubble situation, as others have already chimed in, non-US peeps just don't care about it.
For example: Unlimited original quality photo and video uploads to Google Photos
How do you get that unlimited with a custom ROM? They don't even give that to Pixel owners anymore.
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SMS is just awful, sending someone an image only for them to get a pixelated mess feels bad. Definitely not any kind of dealbreaker though, and I personally don’t know anyone who could care less about the color of chat bubbles. iMessage is just seamless, works across all my devices and never requires even trivial troubleshooting, which makes it a strong preference.
Sms is a base messaging service. You could have a Nokia 3310 and if somebody texts you it would go trough without issue. I think you can even send it to a regular corded phone and a robotic voice would read the message out for you. That is the singular strength of that system and as soon as you want more than that you should look into other apps. The fact that iMessage is mixing app functionality with its basic sms functions make it a bad app and it ruins things for everyone else.
I’m an app developer on mobile, and I’ve been using SMS for ~25 years (including on old dumb brick phones). I appreciate your explanation, but my understanding of what SMS is and how it works is reasonably strong.
I’m gonna hard disagree with you there, the fact that iMessage mixes functionality is a huge contributor to the fact that iPhones are destroying android phones in the US.
Sending a text message with images and video is a single use case. The protocol that the message uses is an implementation detail and I think that it’s excellent UX for the user not to have to worry about it.
This is the exact reason that Google Allo was an immediate failure. Replacing hangouts (which could send rich messages or fallback to SMS) with an app with a worse feature set guaranteed that nobody would adopt it. Nobody was going to switch between two apps with the same use case (sending textual messages) based on which apps the person they were talking to has on their phone. I get that that’s a thing in Europe, but that’s out of necessity because european telecoms price SMS messages differently and few Europeans use SMS. If SMS isn’t widely used by your circle, you’re forced to worry about which apps the person you’re talking to has installed.
If I want to send a text message, I open my text messaging app, select a contact and send it. iOS determines the best available protocol for me, an enables the best feature set that both parties support. It’s a seamless and extremely enjoyable user experience.
Ruins things for everyone else
Me having an app that handles both SMS and iMessage seamlessly ruins absolutely nothing for anybody lol. This complaint is pretty silly and seems like its complaining that others are on a platform with a feature that you’ve chosen not to be on.
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For me, I'm technologically inclined and like to be helpful. As such, I would not date an iphone user as I do not know how to fix their phones, and that would make me feel sad that I couldn't help. Also, as an iphone user, it seems like they'd rather just buy a new stupidly phone than take the time to figure out how their device actually works, and that massively clashes with how I view things.
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Which country are we talking about?
I barely know people using iOS, much less being elitist about it.
I've heard this bubble thing is only truly relevant in the US. Here in Brazil we mostly use whatsapp...unfortunately
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