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Our instance is only defederated from one other instance and it's lemmygrad. My question is why? It doesn't seem like a hate group or anything as far as I can tell. Can someone fill me in?

I hope I posted this to the right place; still getting used to how lemmy works. If I should post elsewhere, let me know.

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[-] BlackRose@slrpnk.net 53 points 1 year ago

...while still being federated with the fascist exploding-heads.com

[-] jursed@beehaw.org 26 points 1 year ago

Clicked on it and the first thing I saw is "women's bodies were meant for the male gaze"

I'm not a fan of lemmygrad at all but yeah thats wild lol

[-] Silverseren@kbin.social 15 points 1 year ago

Sounds like more defederation is needed, not less.

[-] SRo@lemmy.fmhy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Or just no defederation at all.

[-] Ggtfmhy@lemmy.fmhy.ml 10 points 1 year ago

My only gripe with using FMHY as my main.

[-] iorale@lemmy.fmhy.ml 5 points 1 year ago

Wait, can we talk about this? Nobody said anything so I tought we were waiting until this server became a target to defederate them or something, I basically have everything from that instance blocked

[-] BlackRose@slrpnk.net 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
[-] nbats@lemmy.fmhy.ml 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah we've discussed it more and we decided we're defeding exploding. As far as why we're defeded from lemmygrad, they're just known for causing problems similar to exploding heads and we just want to keep things drama free.

[-] ggt@lemmy.fmhy.ml 0 points 1 year ago

If you guys can link some bad posts that are actively encouraged by the instance then I'll add it to the blocked list. (This is why it isn't blocked right now - all I've heard is that it's just right wing, which doesn't constitute a block.)

[-] Martineski@lemmy.fmhy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Not anymore

[-] nostalgicgamerz@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Eyy yo what the fuck. I didn’t know that. I’ll likely unsubscribe if they keep them in their loop

[-] zephr_c@lemm.ee 29 points 1 year ago

Before everyone came over from reddit Lemmygrad was even more extreme than it is now, and was one of the largest Lemmy instances. You basically had to either defederate from Lemmygrad or have every conversation get derailed by people going on about how Stalin was actually a pretty chill dude. Defederating from Lemmygrad probably isn't so important anymore, but it's just kind of stuck around out of inertia at this point, I think.

[-] brunox@feddit.cl 16 points 1 year ago

Before everyone came over from reddit Lemmygrad was even more extreme than it is now, and was one of the largest Lemmy instances.

This is correct. After all, setting up an instance like Lemmygrad -as an alternative places where discussing politics (especially leftist politics) outside of reddit's moderation reach- was one of the reasons Lemmy was developed in the first place. Lemmy's developers are not shy about it, they include it in the official docs.

[-] ieatpillowtags@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It is a hate group in a way, it’s just what they hate is the US, capitalism, “the west”, etc. And their solution is “bring back the ussr at any cost”, so you see a lot of “Ukraine was totally asking for it” and similar.

[-] Silverseren@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

Ew. That sounds like a gross bunch of people.

[-] CaptainComrade@lemmy.fmhy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

I get your point, but the US, capitalism and The West aren't protected characteristics.

I'm on the far left, I think Stalin Simps are silly and deluded. The tankie love over there is too much. Whilst I am critical of NATO and their role in flaming the ongoing conflict in Ukraine I'd in no way try absolving Russia of their actions either.

[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 11 points 1 year ago

I saw one post from Lemmygrad and it was like listening to MAGA heads, except instead of conservatism, it was extreme communism.

Extremists on either side are not good.

[-] nondescript_citizen@lemmy.fmhy.ml 16 points 1 year ago

Okay, but if you're going to defederate from one instance for ideological reasons, why not others? Someone else linked another instance that is pretty extreme in its right wing ideology, so to not defederate from that one seems sketchy.

[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 6 points 1 year ago

I agree with that; but I'm not in control of any instance to make that decision.

Sorry, I'm not saying you are. I'm just thinking that it's good to talk about as people who choose to use this instance. Maybe we can ask the person who does run it to change it if we all agree? Idk

[-] jtmetcalfe@mastodon.nz -3 points 1 year ago

@Kolanaki why is extremism “not good”?

[-] CaptainComrade@lemmy.fmhy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

It's a pain in the arse when people make sweeping statements like that.

I see myself as an extremist, self described as on the radical far left. However I'm no way a tankie obsessed with Stalin and Mao and certainly not about to pretend genocides weren't committed.

There's certainly takeaways from Stalin and Maos and the ideology they moulded, but too quick people jump to their defences but equally any communism is instantly shot down as crazy.

Guess I'm rambling now. Basically in summary, you can be an extremist on the left that isn't authoritarian whilst still wanting everyone in society to have a fair share

[-] Akasazh@feddit.nl 1 points 1 year ago

Tbh what you're describing isn't extremism, but quite based. It only seems extreme because everyone has drifted so far right that any kind of leftist talking points are framed as being externe.

[-] brunox@feddit.cl 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Here they talk about this instance stand on defederation. It has some ~~vague~~ responses about this.

Edit: there are some not actually vague

[-] CaptainComrade@lemmy.fmhy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

I'm in no way a tankie, but their reasoning is lacking for me if they aren't going to also de-federate from exploding heads etc

[-] kd637_mi@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 1 year ago

I picked the SDF instance for this reason, otherwise I would be on aussie.zone or lemmygrad as my main. I also have one on lemmy.ml but I prefer to distribute the server load.

Honestly I may change instances over it... It doesn't sit right with me to only defederate from just an extreme leftist instance instead of both that and the extreme right one.

I'd personally rather defederate from neither and leave it up to the individual user to block what they don't want to see

[-] Martineski@lemmy.fmhy.ml -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Here we go with this question again...

I will let smarter people explain this this time.

Edit: sorry for my useless comment, my initial thought was that it may help give the post more visibility but when I realised that it would get responses anyway it was already too late to back out lol.

[-] tempest@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 year ago

Honestly they should probably add a notes field to the federation page so people can stop asking these questions.

[-] Martineski@lemmy.fmhy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

Yeah, that would be good.

[-] Martineski@lemmy.fmhy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Wait wait, I just remembered something. I think that they added a field for a reason for defederation but I may remember something wrong.

[-] Cube6392@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago
[-] brunox@feddit.cl 3 points 1 year ago

No activity on that request but some related features (#1, #2) are being worked on. So probably we will see some advances in future versions?

[-] Martineski@lemmy.fmhy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

My bad, I assumed that it may be already implemented because there's a "reason" field on this site: https://fba.ryona.agency/?reverse=lemmy.fmhy.ml

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