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Summary

Many Democrats, especially women, expressed disillusionment and frustration online, viewing the result as a reflection of deep-seated misogyny in the U.S.

Harris supporters highlighted anger that a “felony convicted, twice-impeached” Trump prevailed over a female candidate.

Comparisons to Hillary Clinton’s 2016 loss resurfaced, with many attributing Trump’s win to targeted appeals to young men, including appearances with influencers like Joe Rogan.

The election outcome has intensified concerns over growing right-wing radicalization among young men.

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[-] Sanctus@lemmy.world 36 points 21 hours ago

I actually concluded that and that the Democrats have no fucking clue who their fucken base is. Jfc. They should all just register as Republicans if they want to keep moving right like this.

[-] Carrolade@lemmy.world 22 points 21 hours ago

Democrats don't really have a base. It's not progressives, if that's what you're thinking, we don't have the numbers for that kind of sway. You can see this clearly in how many House seats we hold.

If there is any base to dems, its white collar suburban soccer moms. But it's not actually that either, they're just one of the biggest segments.

[-] adespoton@lemmy.ca 20 points 20 hours ago

Exactly; “Democrats” are the party of the “not Republicans”. With how far right the Overton window has shifted, that covers a LOT of the political spectrum, much of which is in opposition.

[-] Wrench@lemmy.world 5 points 17 hours ago

And yet, the Overton window isn't wide enough to fight a tiny slice of window, which is "far right fascists"

[-] adespoton@lemmy.ca 4 points 17 hours ago

That’s the point; the different groups are just as likely to fight each other as the far right, which now has an entire party to itself.

[-] Sanctus@lemmy.world 10 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

Doesnt matter anymore. Have you seen what these lunatics have been saying as potential members of his cabinet and beyond? Anyone who voted Democrat is in danger at this point. The rise of the American Reich.

[-] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 2 points 12 hours ago

I'm certain thier base is whomever votes at this point. If the GOP dissappear tomorrow, I'm concerned they would start putting up nazi flags.

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[-] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 14 points 19 hours ago

Misogyny is an easy excuse that doesn't question the effectiveness of any of the politicians or consultants involved in the race. People forget that Biden only barely won what should have been an easy race. Now the difference between losing and barely winning is a big deal, but they all ran pretty similar campaigns trying to get the "good Republicans" while neglecting their base. Maybe Biden's shriveled dick was the difference to get him to barely squeak past Trump while a woman wouldn't, but none of these races should have been close. There's a much bigger problem at play than "just don't run women because too sexist".

[-] Lizardking13@lemmy.world 7 points 18 hours ago

I'm with you. Some of the simplicity of this is what's going to keep these cycles going.

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[-] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 24 points 21 hours ago
[-] AmidFuror@fedia.io 16 points 20 hours ago

That what they mean by America hates women. It includes women too.

[-] vividspecter@lemm.ee 8 points 19 hours ago

Internalised misogyny and all of that.

[-] eran_morad@lemmy.world 5 points 19 hours ago
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[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 16 points 21 hours ago

Anything except blaming her policies because those conservative policies come with a shit ton in donations...

[-] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 15 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

Yup. Sadly, we can't run some robust experiments, but I'm pretty sure Warren would have outperformed Harris by a mile.

God I hope the DNC's fucking takeaway isn't "must only run neoliberal men".

[-] HuntressHimbo@lemm.ee 19 points 21 hours ago

I looked back over the 2020 primary data and Kamala dropped before she even got to the first vote, Warren continued to pull small groups of delegates after super tuesday. In a very real sense Elizabeth Warren beat the pants off Kamala in terms of the primary. I was really pushing for her early in 2020 because I felt she was a consensus candidate between the further left Bernie types and the centrist Buttigieg types.

[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 7 points 19 hours ago

She’s even wonkier than Harris and wouldn’t have connected with voters as well.

Don’t get me wrong, she’s an amazing Senator. But what makes you good at governing isn’t what makes you good in a campaign.

[-] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 8 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

She was (briefly) leading the race at one point and packing large speaking venues. She had four hour lines of people waiting to get a picture with her. Wonkier doesn't equal "unable to connect with voters".

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[-] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago

More than one thing can be true. And they obviously were in this case.

[-] WoahWoah@lemmy.world 14 points 21 hours ago

Much of America hates much more than just women, but women have got to be at or near the top of the list.

[-] Hobbes_Dent@lemmy.world 12 points 21 hours ago

Devastated world gets confirmation of American misogyny above freedom and safety.

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