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Nearly 70 percent of deaths in Gaza are women and children: UN (www.aljazeera.com)

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[-] HorseRabbit@lemmy.sdf.org 51 points 5 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

According to the CIA world factbook (the only source I could find) the population spread in gaza is:

0-14 years: 38.8% (male 427,450/female 404,288) 15-64 years: 58.3% (male 627,235/female 620,903) 65 years and over: 2.9% (2024 est.) (male 31,655/female 30,112)

https://www.cia.gov/the-world-factbook/countries/gaza-strip/#people-and-society

Meaning about 30% of the population are males over 14.

So I guess Israel isn't disproportionately murdering women and children, theyre just killing everyone. So genocide.

[-] BeatTakeshi@lemmy.world 66 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

"Yeah but women and girls will give birth to terrorists, and boys will become terrorists. These are just preemptive-preemptive strikes... Historians may call this genocide but we disagree semantically". - Israeli government probably

[-] Doomsider@lemmy.world 13 points 5 days ago

Mossad would be proud of this statement.

[-] wpb@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

Not probably. "Erase the memory of them. Erase them, their families, mothers and children." says the head of their air force.

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[-] cygnus@lemmy.ca 72 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Given that most Palestinians are under the age of 14, this was to be expected: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_the_State_of_Palestine

[-] ladel@feddit.uk 47 points 5 days ago

Not most, technically - wiki says 0-14 make 44% of population. But this article breaks down the 70% further by saying 44% killed were 14 or under, so it's pretty much bang on for indicating that they're killing Palestinians at random.

[-] meco03211@lemmy.world 46 points 5 days ago

And if 44% are children, that leaves 56% as adults. Cut that roughly in half to 28% for a 50/50 male/female split you get 72% (28 and 44) of the population is "women and children". If that's accurate, the title would be better stated as "Isreal kills indiscriminately".

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[-] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 26 points 5 days ago

Nah, I expect militaries to not bomb indiscriminately. Because that's a war crime.

[-] Zacpod@lemmy.world 9 points 5 days ago

You expect too much of the IDF.

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[-] TheOctonaut@mander.xyz 21 points 5 days ago

I mean, sure, but this assumes that the killing is completely indiscriminate.

It is, but it's important that you're clear on that

[-] cygnus@lemmy.ca 14 points 5 days ago

They're obliterating entire cities, so yeah.

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[-] Mango@lemmy.world 15 points 4 days ago

70% of people are women and children.

[-] wpb@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago

I guess the point you're making is that this essentially shows that Israel is targeting any palestinian, not just hamas. That's genocide.

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[-] WaxedWookie@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago

70% of Hamas aren't.

What does this tell us about Israel's goals?

[-] veganpizza69@lemmy.world 19 points 5 days ago

In case anyone forgot from autumn 2023:

On Saturday, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said that Israelis were united in their fight against Hamas, whom he described as an enemy of incomparable cruelty. “They are committed to completely eliminating this evil from the world,” Netanyahu said in Hebrew. He then added: “You must remember what Amalek has done to you, says our Holy Bible. And we do remember.”

As others quickly pointed out, God commands King Saul in the first Book of Samuel to kill every person in Amalek, a rival nation to ancient Israel. “This is what the Lord Almighty says,” the prophet Samuel tells Saul. “‘I will punish the Amalekites for what they did to Israel when they waylaid them as they came up from Egypt. Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy all that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.’”

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2023/11/benjamin-netanyahu-amalek-israel-palestine-gaza-saul-samuel-old-testament/

[-] qyron@sopuli.xyz 27 points 5 days ago

By eliminating the next generation(s) and the females in fertile age, it is more effective at wiping out a population than engaging directly with it.

This is valid for getting rid of vermin, capable of explosive breeding.

No need to guess what the results will be when applied to human beings.

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[-] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 12 points 5 days ago

Why are so many women and children joining Hamas?

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[-] Fleur_@lemm.ee 13 points 5 days ago

Is that just because 70% of people are women and children or is there bias?

[-] Thrashy@lemmy.world 19 points 5 days ago

The math leans towards the former, but when the two hypotheses suggested by the data are "we are actively and selectively targeting noncombatants" and "we just don't give half a shit who we're killing," in a sane world you'd be universally branded as "the baddies" in the conflict.

[-] Fleur_@lemm.ee 9 points 5 days ago

They're bad I just want a better understanding of what's happening so I can more accurately hate Israel

[-] Pilferjinx@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago

I wish there was a way to convince them that murdering your neighbors then stealing their land is fucking evil.

[-] Thrashy@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago

Sorry. Not casting aspersions on you, just despairing at the situation.

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[-] pingveno@lemmy.world 9 points 5 days ago

44% children, 26% women, 30% men. Gaza is about half under 18, so that's nearly randomly killing people. That said, these are only confirmed fatalities, so presumably susceptible to bias.

The report is here

[-] daddy32@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago

No bias, they are just killing everyone on sight.

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