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To me it is chess. I know how the piece move but that is it.

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[-] kalkulat@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

There are different kinds of smart. A person can be quick and creative at something (math, mechanics, music, marketing ...), and less so at everything else.

If the something is -complicated-, then a lot of learning is needed, and a good qualified teacher will help you sort out what is really important to know. Chess is complicated, and you need to learn basic strategies of how to move and not get eaten alive. There are some books that can help with that. But a human teacher can get you there a lot faster. If you're really motivated but you're not remembering enough? it may not be your 'something' !

[-] stoy@lemmy.zip 4 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

If you are smart, you know that you really aren't smart

[-] bremen15@feddit.org 1 points 5 days ago

I am wise and intelligent.

[-] amassaro@lemmy.today 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

I have been always terrible in maths, and this deficit represent imho a major obstacle in getting a decent job these days.

[-] recursive_recursion@lemmy.ca 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Structurally I know how things should work, but sometimes trying to program it tho...

2 images side-by-side of a dire/grim looking puppet first glancing to the left then right

[-] DragonsInARoom@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

There is so much I don't know, so when I do know something there's still someone who knows more than me.

[-] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 2 points 6 days ago

There are many types of cognition. I don't feel I know much more than how pieces move but certainly I look at the board and possibilities. Some of it is spacial modeling and some is a sort of logical progression. That being said people that have particular chess gambits memorized. well that is just memorization. There is also talent and such to consider. That being said when you personally know somone who is good at some particular thing. Its sensible to follow their lead. I know folks who I would take their medical advice above others and others where I trust their economic viewpoints and others for their scientific.

Adding on to what many have already said to give it a name: multiple intelligences

[-] HenriVolney@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 days ago

No idea, I'm just here to chill with da boyz

[-] tomi000@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

There are very different kinds of "smartness". The currently favored (by most modern societies) kind weighs logical and structured thinking very heavily, that doesnt mean someone "isnt smart" if they dont possess those qualities. Also, chess does not even rely on the commonly referred to "smartness" that much. The most important aspects are long term memory ( for remembering situations from games and acting accordingly)and thousands of hours of practice.

[-] kirbowo808@kbin.melroy.org 1 points 6 days ago

I suck at maths or anything that has to do with numbers. But besides that, so many do say I’m intelligent. Though tbh, I’m far from it lol, there’s so much I need to learn about and the list just keeps building up so I guess it ain’t a bad thing after all. It’s just I’m always willing to open my eyes to new things.

[-] shinigamiookamiryuu@lemm.ee 1 points 6 days ago

I was told smarter people are more likely to be cursed with things that count as mental illness.

[-] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 1 points 6 days ago

[off topic?]

The book 'Starship Troopers' is a lot different from the movie.

In the book the Bugs have space ships and other tech, so it's obvious that their leadership in intelligent. The question is whether the soldiers in the field are thinking for themselves or just genetically programmed to fight.

The narrator opines that if the Bug can kill you, that makes it smarter than you.

[-] cabillaud@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

Robert A. Heinlein was a fascist.

[-] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 1 points 5 days ago
[-] cabillaud@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

I remember an epigraph of one his books saying smthg like "To Sergeant whatever who took us as childs and made us men". That's enough for me

[-] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 1 points 5 days ago

So, you have no evidence that he was a Fascist. You have an opinion.

It's very important that you learn that you having an opinion about a fact doesn't change the fact.

[-] cabillaud@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Being fascist is expressing fascist ideas, or am I missing something ?

[-] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 2 points 5 days ago

He said that he thought his DI did a good job of teaching him to be a responsible adult.

Look up 'The Bonus Army.' Those guys were all military veterans. They were also some of the most radical people in US history. When they came to Washington they tried to keep discipline like they'd been taught.

If forcing young people to act responsibly is 'fascist,' then every coach, teacher, and sensei is a fascist.

[-] cabillaud@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

He didn't say that his DI learnt them to be responsible adults, he said he turned them into real men. Isn't playbook fascism ? It's important you learn how to read closely. Words are words, not the opinion you have on them.

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[-] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

I also know how chess pieces move, other than the rare en passant, but will lose to anyone willing to challenge me and I don't think I could get much better than mediocre with any amount of practice. However, I got full marks on a Mensa IQ test so I'd say I'm intellingent in a way but with my mild autism, likely ADHD and lack of practical skills, it's hard to tell. I have done lots of stupid decisions IRL, often repeatedly.

Would I say I'm "smart"? Depends. Intelligent, probably. Wise, hell no.

[-] Maalus@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

The answer to the "chess" thing is "yes, you will get better if you play it for long enough". It's a lot about pattern recognition and the things you've seen in the past. There are certain rules to follow that help a lot - but someone needs to teach them to you first. It's like saying "I suck at crosswords, I will never be good at them" - yes you will, with enough done you'll start to see repeating "crossword words" that keep being used over and over.

Edit: also for the life thing - it's the difference between wisdom and intelligence.

[-] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org 1 points 6 days ago

You're probably right. My biggest flaw is that I fail to notice forks, guarded pieces and other obvious patterns, and don't know any nuances in the general strategy other than "exposed king bad, having more pieces good, K>Q>R>N>B>P".

[-] Maalus@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

N and B are equal and loss of one depends on the current situation of the board :d

Forks and all of that comes with playing the game. It also comes from the easiest / most approachable way to play chess - puzzles. So far so, that it's insanely popular on Facebook, where some guy pastes an amazing move from the past and a butt-ton of people stop and think about it.

Also, forks and stuff is often overkill. You can get to like 1200 rating by knowing like 4 - 5 moves in the start. Most games are decided by someone making a huge mistake. And in the first matches, that guy will probably be you. But then suddenly you'll notice a huge fuckup and win a game over it. And then the fuckup will be slightly smaller, and smaller, and smaller.

But yah, chess isn't all intelligence, it is a lot of practice and study.

[-] ABCDE@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

You have to study strategies, that's how people get good. You won't be a match for anyone read.

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