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[-] Commiunism@beehaw.org 16 points 1 day ago

To be fair, them getting their shit together would be good regardless if there's another legitimate election in the future

There will be. A Turkey style election. Or maybe russia style depending on if democratic-led states find the spine to stand against a tyrannical federal government. We're about to see if this "federalism" really mean anything.

[-] vga@sopuli.xyz 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I think this should be a good way to win back money from failed Harris bets. I'd dare to put some money on a bet that there is going to be elections in 2028 and Trump is not going to be a candidate.

One of those win/everythingsfucked kind of bets.

[-] Kalysta@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago

Well. He’s super old and eats like shit. There is a good chance he won’t be the nominee because he dies in office.

Don’t bet JD Vance won’r be on the ticket though

[-] Nougat@fedia.io 37 points 1 day ago

Hell, there's not going to be a 2026 election.

[-] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 44 points 1 day ago

There will be, in the same way that they have elections in Russia and Turkey.

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[-] spacecadet@lemm.ee 12 points 1 day ago

I was watching a video the other day of Rachel Maddow talking about how now that Trump is elected, we will never have a vote again. We will be a Russian puppet state and that all immigrants regardless of status will be deported. I was thinking that’s a possibility and a scary potential future. Then I realized the video was from 2016… and Trump went on to be so ineffective that more immigrants came in than Obama. The only lasting legacy he will have is the Supreme Court, which sucks, but he is too ineffective to do anything other than rant on truth social. He is good at saying things, not doing things.

[-] freebee@sh.itjust.works 25 points 1 day ago

Things are very different this time around. They have a lot more power and are a lot more prepared. Trump isn't capable, the gang around him definitely is.

The first time he was trying, poorly, to have talking points.

This time he would just straight up stand there and sway for 30 minutes and say the most stupid shit he could think of and still got elected.

The more Ive thought about it, it was just warming the liberals up to accepting that it's over.

So now the next steps are to consolidate power, declare himself president for life, and then invade Mexico or some shit.

[-] MrPoopbutt@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

The world was caught by surprise in 2016. A lot of evildoers didn't even realize what was possible.

They have since realized, planned, and prepared.

[-] nelly_man@lemmy.world 61 points 1 day ago

In his first term, he had a center-right Court that was willing to rule against him. Congress was also not solely controlled by Republicans, and there was a notable never-Trump coalition within their ranks.

Now, the Court is balanced more heavily to the right, and they've already been willing to accept ridiculous proposals that help Trump. And he'll be going into this next term with a Republican-controlled Senate and House. And most of the never-Trumpers have either left or been voted out.

So I do understand that it's possible that our fears are overblown, but there are good reasons to believe that he'll do more lasting damage in his second term.

[-] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 27 points 1 day ago

To be clear, the Republicans being organized means the Republicans will be able to do more lasting damage. Trump is just the face, and while he is a terrible person who causes damage through chaos, the malicious Republicans as a whole are responsible for whatever damage happens during his turn.

That is important to keep in mind, because even if they cart him off to jail on day 2 of his term they will continue to do all the damage they can.

[-] Robust_Mirror@aussie.zone 13 points 1 day ago

It's also worth remembering the republicans having a different face next time doesn't mean they'll be different next time.

People act like things are only bad because of Trump and that if it was someone else it would be less bad. There's no actual reason to assume that.

[-] shalafi@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

And you think you're the only one so wise as to have noticed all that? Trump's people have been working their ass off for this day. They've seen the weaknesses in Trump and the system and they're already deploying their plans. If you think this administration will be Trump 2.0, you got another thing coming.

I imagine Germans were laughing at Hitler after the Beer Hall Putsch.

[-] spacecadet@lemm.ee 4 points 1 day ago

They weren’t laughing, they were naively relieved and thought they dodged a bullet and threw him in jail.

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[-] joyjoy@lemm.ee 10 points 1 day ago

In 2028, the Democrats won't even be on the ticket, and most of America still won't vote third party.

[-] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 1 day ago

I'd like to see Bernie try to spin up a third party; not for himself to run for office, but just to divorce from the DNC and give leftist politicians a fighting chance using his name/approval.

[-] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 day ago

State level electoral reform first?

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