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[-] anamethatisnt@lemmy.world 29 points 2 weeks ago

A video where the uploader compares different phone operating systems using the LINDDUN threat model.

[-] lancalot@discuss.online 22 points 2 weeks ago
[-] Biskii@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 weeks ago

I'm planning on getting a Pixel 7 Pro soon and I'm going to immediately put GrapheneOS on it. Are there any extra precautions I need to take?

[-] Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 weeks ago

Not really, just make sure that you're getting a carrier-unlocked device, since carrier locks often also come with permanent bootloader locks. As long as you can unlock the bootloader (i.e. the OEM unlocking setting in the developer settings is NOT greyed out), everything will be fine.

[-] Biskii@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 weeks ago
[-] eleitl@lemm.ee 4 points 2 weeks ago

Got my Pixel 7 a a few days ago for 335 EUR, runs GrapheneOS well.

[-] Biskii@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 weeks ago

I can't wait! I've been on a cheap prepaid phone for YEARS and it barely functions at all at this point. I'm very excited about using a custom OS again. I think my last one was cyanogen mod on a Galaxy S3 if I am remembering correctly

[-] I_Miss_Daniel@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago

The unplugged rotary dial one at the back of the linen cupboard.

[-] Stovetop@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago

Landlines are easy to tap into, unfortunately.

Smartphones come with their own security concerns but it allows things like E2E encrypted VOIP to exist, at least.

[-] iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 weeks ago

How you gonna tap into an unplugged rotary phone?

[-] Stovetop@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

Ah you're right, my brain somehow glossed over that detail!

[-] JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee 14 points 2 weeks ago

That ranking makes sense, GOS is the best. It's just a shame they don't support non Pixel phones, of the rankings doesn't include other custom ROMs

[-] Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 2 weeks ago

It's a shame that no smartphone vendor other than Apple or Google bothers to properly implement hardware security features like a secure element (e.g. Apple's Secure Enclave or the Google Titan M2).

[-] henfredemars@infosec.pub 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I understand the decision. It’s kind of unreasonable to expect a developer to maintain a release without access to reasonably-maintained source to work on.

[-] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Yep.

But in the Real World, what's the pragmatic difference between Graphene and a well-managed Lineage or DivestOS device, since security and privacy are both managed via layers?

I'm genuinely not being snarky. I tried running Graphene and had issues, and their support was atrociously condescending and critical, so now I'm running DivestOS instead. I've run Lineage on other devices without Google.

[-] henfredemars@infosec.pub 2 points 2 weeks ago

I think there’s definitely security concerns which is their highest priority. If the kernel isn’t maintained, security issues aren’t getting patched. You might be able to cobble something together, but there’s going to be holes.

I think they’re paranoid and that’s not a judgment. Rightly so if security is your first priority.

[-] Kernal64@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 weeks ago

According to the Graphene OS website, the main issue isn't even that. It's that you can't relock the boot loader on almost any device other than a Pixel. That leaves a huge security hole on the phone, and it's one that almost all rooted users of other phones have open, whether they realize it or not.

[-] Zeon@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago
[-] mrus@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 weeks ago

As soon as it can properly phone it might be included in such reviews.

[-] muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee 2 points 2 weeks ago

Graphene os for the win baby

[-] halykthered@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 weeks ago

I've hidden it and shall not tell you where.

this post was submitted on 10 Nov 2024
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