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[-] wick@lemm.ee 3 points 6 months ago

What a weird arbitrary number. I wonder where they got that idea from.

[-] maplebar@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Their "prophet" Muhammad had a 6-year-old "wife" (read: child sex slave) who he fucked when she was around 9, Aisha.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aisha

Isn't religion just wonderful?

[-] accarezzu@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 months ago

And yet 2 billion people basically worship this guy... Yikes on so many damn bikes.

[-] mightyfoolish@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

I understand that Saddam Hussein was a terrible man. But it sucks that support from his opposition is what helped push this. They're not bad because they are Shia; they are simply the worst of the people that opposed Hussein. This is what happens when you prop up puppet governments. The rights of the people aren't important to the puppeteer.

Tl:dr: Even with Saddam Hussein's death, Iraq never got its freedom.

[-] kava@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

At the time when we launched the aggressive and illegal invasion of a sovereign county, we were doing it for Democracy™ and Human Rights™

At the time, you would have been called a traitor, shill, or insane to suggest otherwise.

After some years, it becomes absolutely clear none of it was true. It was all for imperialist motives. It seems that the propaganda is strong, but it has a short half life. Today you'll have trouble finding someone defending the US invasion of Iraq.

I think we are seeing the same thing with Ukraine war. In 10, 15 years people will see the war for what it is- a progressive destabilization of Eastern Europe and intentional proxy war.

But right now- it's Sovereignty™, International Law™, and Democracy™

We destroyed Iraq. We doomed millions of people for generations. And we are participating right now in the destruction of another country.

It's just that we do. We destroy.

[-] chuymatt@startrek.website 2 points 6 months ago

Ok. That is until the Ukraine bit. Russia chose to invade. It was made very clear in the press that the US knew what was happening on the border and gave Putin every chance to stop it Ukraine is a sovereign country and did not want more Russian influence and was courting EU membership.

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[-] mightyfoolish@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago

I think we are seeing the same thing with Ukraine war. In 10, 15 years people will see the war for what it is- a progressive destabilization of Eastern Europe and intentional proxy war.

I was wondering what you meant by this but now I think I get it. We created a puppet state in Iraq to get a "buffer" against Iran. The same way Putin wants Ukraine to be its buffer against the rest of Europe. Did I get that right?

I agree with the rest of what you said.

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[-] Texas_Hangover@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 months ago

They follow muhammad right to the letter don't they?

[-] Anti_Face_Weapon@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

At least they're consistent 🤮

[-] GBU_28@lemm.ee 1 points 6 months ago

So does that align with Mohammad 's second wife?

All religion is just a framework to be shitty.

[-] Yawweee877h444@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I dont know why you'd be downvoted, people should be reminded of this often.

The prophet Muhammad married his wife Aisha when she was 6 years old. According to the history he waited until she was 9 to start raping her.

Edit: he was 53 when he started raping his 9 year old wife. Fucking gross.

[-] GBU_28@lemm.ee 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Edit, phrasing.

I hate Abrahamic origin religious systems en masse, especially when states use them to justify bullshit. Goes for western countries too.

Some folks probably think I'm targeting

[-] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 months ago

Abrahamic origin

It's not like other systems have a much better track record. Shintoism was responsible for the rape of nanking, the ongoing Rohingya genocide is being done in the name of Buddhism, and take your pick of at least 2/3rds of everything the Roman empire ever did

[-] Yawweee877h444@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago

I hate Abrahamic origin religious systems en masse

Right there with you in agreement 100%. This iron age mythology superstitious nonsense needs to be eradicated completely, and only studied academically from a sociological perspective for what it really is, myth, as well as all the pain, suffering, death and horror it has caused human beings, and still is causing. Fuck religion.

[-] BrundleFly2077@sh.itjust.works 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Bronze Age 😋 #Ackchyually. Root narratives of Judaism and so the Abrahamic tradition from roughly 2000-1200 BCE

Ignore me.

[-] mightyfoolish@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Do you have a source for that? I would think the oldest passages of the old testament go back to the 900s at best. That's why the oldest historical figure the bible has is Pharaoh Shoshank. I'd be surprised to see if anything from before the Bronze Age Collapse made it in (besides being vaguely Semetic).

[-] BrundleFly2077@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 months ago

Right. Keref Hinnom is 600BCE, so a wee bit earlier than the actual reference to ol’ King Shawshank redemption. But there’s oral tradition _probably_ running as early as 1200BCE. - I was talking Abrahamic tradition (as per the dude I was replying to, so not explicitly Christianity… in which case you’re completely correct) 

https://dokumen.pub/the-abrahamic-religions-a-very-short-introduction-very-short-introductions-627-1stnbsped-9780190654368-0190654341-9780190654344.html - Cohen, Charles L., 'The Jewish matrix (1200 bce–70 ce)', The Abrahamic Religions: A Very Short Introduction”

[-] mightyfoolish@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

probably running as early as 1200BCE

I could agree there was something "related" by 1200BCE at the EARLIEST. After all, Judahites, Edomites, and Qederites do not even show up till 900 BC; a few hundred years after the Amorite civilization begins its downward spiral (where some of their last traces are seen in the mixed ethnic group of Palmyra which has elements of Amorites, Arameans, and Arabs mixed together -- even though they are virtually identical cultures).

[-] wick@lemm.ee 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Yea I think you're more right, Judaism didn't kick off until the early iron age, and changed over time. But also the roots in late bronze age semetic culture are, if not significant, at least relevant depending on the conversation.

Source: theologians dunking on evangelicals on YouTube, and Wikipedia.

[-] mightyfoolish@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

That makes sense. I also hear that the laws of the Old Testament take considerable amount of inspiration from the Laws of Hammurabi; which was developed earlier in the Bronze Age.

[-] marx2k@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

Matt Gaetz b like rubbingHandsTogether.gif

[-] Realitaetsverlust@lemmy.zip 1 points 6 months ago

So they just want to legalize what they've been doing all the time anyways?

[-] wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 months ago

I'm so glad we brought freedom to that country 👏👏👏

[-] FourPacketsOfPeanuts@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago

Nothing to see here guys. All cultures are equal and thinking the West has a better way is colonialism

/s

[-] theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 6 months ago

Sure the west and their settler colonialism massive resource extraction and so on is great. And its not like the many religious problems against say homosexuality in christian Africa can't be directly be blamed on christian missionaries. And its also not like poverty and brutal attacks on secular nationalists in the middle east in the name of fighting communism has anything to do with modern political Islam. No sir.

[-] FourPacketsOfPeanuts@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

That's quite some whataboutism. I'm clearly talking about the insanity of 9 year old girls being forced to wed..

[-] llamatron@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago

"Consent"

Like consent even comes into it

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[-] accarezzu@lemmy.ml 0 points 6 months ago

Nah, Islam was already ruined from the start since it was made up by a schizophrenic warmongering sex-obsessed pedo 💀

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