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Amazon delivery vans were parked in bike lanes all over Cambridge today. (mastodon.social)
submitted 1 week ago by danielquinn@lemmy.ca to c/fuckcars@lemmy.world
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[-] Humana@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

In my country you can submit a photo of this to the local police with a statement swearing it's a true photo, then your name and tax ID number. Then in 6-9 months the vehicle owner will receive a citation and fee in the mail.

It's fun because you have a serial offender who thinks they are getting away with it like this, but in 6-9 months they will get the first few and correct their behavior but continue to receive the citations. Then they will finally look at the dates of the offense on the citation and realize they have thousands of euros in fees still coming for months of shitty behavior.

[-] Katana314@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

Oh, man. We want immediate justice so often, but I almost think the delay is the best part of that.

Still means 6 months of cyclist frustration though…

[-] danielquinn@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 week ago

That's the dream. Where do you live?

[-] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Well, would be better if you could submit it anonymously.

we need an (optional) open source app for that where you just open the app and take a picture (with license plate visible) and click "submit". It submits the time, location, and photo. If it takes more than 30 seconds to report this, they failed.

[-] Humana@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

People here have developed an app that makes it that easy to submit (the app essentially composes the email for you). However, without your full name and tax ID number nothing will happen from the police. As has been pointed out, the system is open to abuse if it became anonymous.

[-] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 1 points 1 week ago

I see no abuse that can't extremely easily be managed. The NSA has been able to use image recognition for dicks since they wiretapped all of Yahoo Video like 20 years ago.

[-] Humana@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Police are inherently lazy, and incompetent. They should be the ones on the street citing these vehicles in the first place. But instead they rely on citizens to do their job for them. Even then they spend 6-9 months to take action. Good luck training them on American NSA penis detection software!

[-] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 1 points 1 week ago

Police dont design it. Its done by the software, which is written by software engineers.

We dont need the NSA. Nude detections is like a Python module now.

[-] Cethin@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

They would need to verify each seemingly correct photo to legitimacy be illegal. I assume if it's not you may be fined. (It might be after a certain number of failures or something to not punish mistakes.) If it's anonymous there is no method available to punish abuse, so the system can easily be clogged.

[-] danielquinn@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 week ago

Actually, I spent an inordinate amount of time building exactly this in my head for most of the day following these photos. There are two major obstacles that I can think of:

  1. Abuse. You will very likely get random dick pics and other terrible stuff sent to such a system. I suppose you could fight this by requiring registration with some id or something, but that's its own can of worms.
  2. I don't know how common it is to have GPS enabled by default on people's cameras. On top of that, even though I have it enabled on my phone, 1 of the 3 photos taken that day had grossly inaccurate GPS attached to it, so now I'd be looking at building some sort of friendly UI to allow people to fix the GPS from their photos.

The server-side stuff is easy (at least for someone with my background) but the front-end is sufficiently complicated that I couldn't do a good job on my own.

[-] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 0 points 1 week ago

  1. dick pics are inevitable and trivial to filter out.

  2. The system should absolutely have graceful fallback. If GPS is off, just prompt the user for the location

Even if GPS is innacurate and 20% of reports have to be trashed, just by making it easier to submit you'll have far more reports in general that its still better to have an easy system that sometimes doesn't work than a hard system that very few people use and always works.

[-] jabathekek@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 week ago

I have to deal with similar issues in my neighbourhood; any service vehicle will have to block the bike lane because that houses driveway is already full of vehicle.

[-] grue@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

Service vehicle never "have" to block the bike lane. They could simply block the general purpose lane instead.

In other words, they are making a deliberate choice to fuck cyclists' safety in order to prioritize convenience for car drivers.

[-] HappycamperNZ@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

I think you're attributing malice to laziness.

I cant think of a single courier or delivery driver that would actively think "let me take an extra 20 seconds to reverse into this driveway just to fuck with bikes". They just want to get it done and get to the next

[-] Hildegarde@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

it would be far easier to simply stop in the lane they are already in. No, they go out of their way to park in the bike lane.

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[-] kindenough@kbin.earth 5 points 1 week ago

We have a suckhead that parks his delivery van on the middle of a cross over (we call it a zebra pad) everytime to deliver goods to our local flower shop. So I tell him he is unlawfully parked, he says I shouldn't worry, it is just for a minute. I tell him it takes only a second for a pedestrian to get hurt. He didn’t care the slightest bit.

[-] Krzd@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

In Germany, parents cannot be held liable if their child under 12 (or 14?) damages illegally parked cars with their bike.... Just a random fact of the day, nothing to do with your comment.

[-] Etterra@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Call the cops on him. Every. Single. Time.

[-] kindenough@kbin.earth 2 points 1 week ago

Next time I will photograph his license plate along with the zebra crossing. I've seen him doing it twice before. So the third time I talked to him.

[-] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 1 points 1 week ago

I tell him it takes only a second for a pedestrian to get hurt. He didn’t care the slightest bit.

while this clown is surely an asshole but let's not forget that his behavior and attitude is likely the very direct result of his economic and employment conditions.

who benefits from this most? the merchant then the buyer...

[-] VeganCheesecake@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 week ago

Delivery trucks, full stop, around here. Though some stop on the street instead, which I prefer, but car drivers usually don't.

In the end, I find it hard to be angry at overworked, underpaid people, who have to work around infrastructure that clearly hasn't been planned with their job in mind.

At least UPS is switching to large bike-like vehicles around here. Hope that trend continues.

[-] Kanda@reddthat.com 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Don't they have traffic wardens in Cambridge? They'd be fined and possibly towed as well here

[-] WolfLink@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago

The police very, very rarely do anything about this kind of thing here. It’s not just Amazon; even everyday random people just stop in the middle of the street to pick people up or drop people off.

The worst offender is Uber Eats, which regularly completely blocks up roads near restaurants.

[-] danielquinn@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 week ago

You'd think, but there are three levels of responsibility: the city council, the county council, and the local police. Calling any one of them to complain and demand enforcement results in them redirecting you to one of the others.

Basically, unless you're blocking car traffic, no one with power cares.

[-] Kanda@reddthat.com 2 points 1 week ago

Just gotta wait for that cyclist that turns into the road because a car was blocking him. Then it'll be all "oh no how could this ever happen?"

[-] danielquinn@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 week ago

But why weren't they wearing their helmet/high-vis/body armour???

[-] Kanda@reddthat.com 1 points 1 week ago

Honestly they should've worn their metal exoskeleton with four wheels

[-] WhatYouNeed@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Plus the wardens have to watch the vehicle for 10 minutes before issuing a ticket. The driver would have completed the delivery and gone within that 10 minutes.

[-] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 1 points 1 week ago

Why would you permit someone to park illegally for 10 minutes?!?

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[-] cynar@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

That can be both incompetent and arseholes. The 2 aren't mutually exclusive.

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