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[-] Phoephus@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago

Dear person volunteering your time and effort for what you thought was a worthy endeavor. We're trying to commodify your work so we can make a killing so don't fuck it up for us.

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[-] Tamhenk@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago

Fuck em. This is my first post on Lemmy and I'm happy it exists.

[-] lolola@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Does that also mean your first word on Lemmy is "fuck"?

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[-] Moonrise2473@feddit.it 23 points 1 year ago

"we respect the protests, but we will remove everyone that will protest"

the part "decide that don't want to be a mod anymore" is so infuriating and unrespectful. Like they don't know what's goin on...

[-] TheOneWithTheHair@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

Actually, as a mod, that's the strongest action you could take... stop moderating for free for reddit. "Jun 12, 2023 When they're all functioning normally, Reddit boasts nearly 140,000 active subreddits at any given time" according to https://wegotthiscovered.com/social-media/how-many-subreddits-are-on-reddit/ Now imagine 1 in 10 subreddits were abandoned by their mods. That's 14,000 subreddits without moderation. Let Spez take over the role of the Landed Gentry for 14,000 subreddits. If he thinks he's not making money now, how much will he have to pay to take care of all those subreddits?

[-] NooBoY@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

As much as I agree with you, I have to disagree as well. In the short term they would have to pay their staff to mod those pages. But for how long will it take for them to find another sucker of a mod to do it for free?

Yes it would cost them money but it would not be for long.

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[-] joneskind@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

"Hey mod! Go back working for free so we can make money or we'll take action you peasant. You own nothing. Kneel and obey."

Steve Hoffman probably

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[-] RickRussell_CA@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago

Subreddits belong to the community of users...

Spez, read that again. Slower this time.

[-] TWeaK@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

It's not even true though. Subreddits belong to the user who creates it, they become the top mod and delegate to other mods. If users don't like how a subreddit is moderated, they are free to make their own subreddit - they aren't supposed to take over someone else's subreddit.

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[-] Tolookah@discuss.tchncs.de 18 points 1 year ago

Open it back up and just stop moderating it? Make them mildly infuriated that you're acting your wage.

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[-] Izzy@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

Alright. They can hire some employees to moderate all of Reddit then.

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[-] h14h@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

Reddit: "Subreddits are for the community of reddit users who rely on them."

Community of reddit users: "We think the sub should stay private, and if you force it open, we'll spam sexy John Oliver and porn."

Reddit: "wait no not like that"

This message is mind-blowingly tone deaf.

[-] Flipht@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

It's not tone deaf so much as it's gaslighting. Their intention isn't to get compliance or work through any of the valid concerns - their intention seems to be to cover themselves and give plausible deniability for potential investors.

They're sending this to mods as if they are the audience, which we know is not the case since anything the mods say is not actually considered.

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[-] ritswd@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

“Reopen this, or else!”

But they’re carefully avoiding to say or else what. My guess is every next step option would cost them resources at the scale of subreddits they’re reaching out to, so they’re hoping that the empty threat alone will cause some to relent without costing them anything. Right?

[-] mcc@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago

What's there to take? Like, these guys are working for free running on their enthusiasm and passion. You make them question whether the community is really worth their time, even if they relent for now, how does that do reddit any good? It isn't like reddit has any actual power over the mods on their ultimate decision of quiting.

[-] Jamie@jamie.moe 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Unfortunately, from what I'm seeing in a lot of subs, it's working. You do have protests from places like r/aww and r/pics doing the John Oliver thing, and r/Steam posting about literal steam. But it seems like on the large, threats of people losing their ability to give Reddit free labor is working to get subs back open.

Edit: r/pics changed, they've chosen total anarchy.

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[-] c_c_combobreaker17@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Fuck em. God its nice to be able to say "fuck em" without having to worry about elon or spez getting butthurt and banning my account.

[-] AbsolutePain@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

A few days ago I didn't have a single reason to leave reddit. Yet, with so many reasons now, here I am, and I look forward to lemmy and kbin.

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[-] someguy3@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 year ago

Roses are red, violets are blue. Open your sub, or we'll boot you too.

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[-] WillardHerman@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

I just deleted three of my reddit accounts. I am done. As an artist, I have more work to do on my primary current account. I feel I should delete my art from reddit so that they can not make money from my art and music.

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[-] ventusx@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago
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[-] Ekeko@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Can’t wait to see Reddit crash and burn

[-] emi@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 1 year ago

Fuck Spez, Lemmy is doing alright. (I like community ran solutions better anyway)

[-] TheOneWithTheHair@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Moderating is volunteer work. Spez is a narcissist. Why volunteer for a narcissist?

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[-] Greg@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 year ago

lol, "subreddits belong to the community of users..." clearly doesn't belong to the users. That's the whole problem

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[-] traches@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 year ago

I love the condescension here - your protest is "taking a break from moderating"

[-] Deestan@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's corporate rhetoric.

They define the reality they want their audience (press, investors) to see: No protests, no demands, no conflict with Reddit, just moderators not taking their job seriously while Reddit is taking its communities seriously and reaching out in good faith and with empathy.

Then they go all method actor and assume this reality, and start writing.

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[-] RIotingPacifist@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Subreddits belong to the community of users…

So you're providing tools to allow democratic control of subreddits, right?

Right?

[-] Generator@lemmy.pt 9 points 1 year ago
[-] owatnext@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

LMAO I got this too. Probably just gonna open 'er back up with minimal mod-activity. Let the bots and NSFW problems flow rampant.

"subreddits belong to the community of users who come to the for support" good way to justify kicking a mod with a passion for such a community and forcing people to post only the things you want.

Because if you force people to have fun they'll be happy, of course.

Mhm I just got info that a certain Poo the bear wants to talk to you about strongarming communities. But don't worry, his methods definitely work.

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[-] Fernis@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

It's interesting how during numerous examples of users trying to fight mod teams over changing direction of the sub, new rules, unwanted new mods etc., and getting admins involved, the answer was ALWAYS the same "Subs are owned by their creators/mods. If you don't like it you can always create a new one".

Suddenly they belong to communieties? Communities that in numerous examples voted by themselves to stay closed? How absolutely full of shit they are...

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[-] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago
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[-] Suavevillain@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Yeah this type of stuff brought me Lemmy.

[-] DBT@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

It’s hilarious to me that they are telling subs that they can’t just switch the NSFW button on like that, after they recently made the vape communities go NSFW against their will.

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[-] green_dragon@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

They are slowly taking away the platforms of free speech. First they came for the self hosted websites; then they changed the search engine functions; then they came for twitter; now they are at Reddit. Make no mistake this is not just about an IPO. This is about controlling how the public communicates. Discourse is discouraged.

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[-] clutchmatic@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

The only way to win is to not play (being a mod at reddit)

[-] nostalgicgamerz@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

r/modcodeofconduct is spez. I guarantee it

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[-] Apollorbust@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

I’m so glad that we have an alternative to Reddit!

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[-] thejml@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

Guessing they’ll just restore a backup from before the shutdown and install new Reddit backed mods. I can’t see this really going any other way. Maybe the subscribed users will drop out of the restored subreddit, but I’m guessing most people just won’t care.

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[-] Alwaysfallingupyup@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

"Subreddits belong to the community of users". Followed by "a path forward to make sure your subreddit is available... which is it?? lol

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[-] HidingUnderHats@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

OMG, can you play a reverse uno card on this? So much of this argument is the problem with the changes they are making. So frustrating.

[-] RinktheDink@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Subreddita belong to the community is not what reddit says when mods abuse their power

[-] cowmouse@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Fuck Reddit

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