195
submitted 6 hours ago by floofloof@lemmy.ca to c/climate@slrpnk.net
all 24 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[-] card797@champserver.net 1 points 10 minutes ago

Surely the circulation will increase in power and shift to different places. The circulation of water isn't going to just stop, right?

[-] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 9 points 2 hours ago

Life on earth:

Fuck it let's go. Day After Tomorrow us. There's a whole section on tax law down here that we can burn.

[-] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 2 points 2 hours ago

This only fucks Europe, right?

[-] deus@lemmy.world 4 points 48 minutes ago* (last edited 48 minutes ago)

“This would bring big changes to the climate and ecosystems, including faster warming in the southern hemisphere, harsher winters in Europe, and weakening of the northern hemisphere’s tropical monsoons.”

Short answer: no.

Long answer: nope.

[-] Sanctus@lemmy.world 88 points 6 hours ago

Damn, we actually collapsed our environment in the name of profit. This must be the great filter. Its the enticing imaginary bullshit that leads to total obliteration over advancement. The chasing of made-up dragons to make some nonexistent number rise.

[-] Rhaedas@fedia.io 29 points 5 hours ago

There's a scene in Sagan's Cosmos where he's exploring the possibilities of life elsewhere. He's in the Ship of the Imagination, looking around at various potentials. He runs across one planet teeming with a civilization, from orbit it had even more lights and connections that our own at night. And then the lights suddenly go out. He discusses how even thriving life can suddenly die and speculates on a few reasons why this one might have, like resources or war or whatever. Summary from memory, I have no idea which episode it's in.

In reality it wouldn't be a sudden disappearance, but a longer decay. The lights shutting off was just to illustrate how easy it is to lose something assumed to be permanent. I'd also recommend the beginning of Revolution to get that same surreal feeling, although the rest of the series was blah.

[-] Sanctus@lemmy.world 21 points 5 hours ago

Ah, Cosmos, I remember watching that when I still believed people were creatures of knowledge and advancement. We'll never know any of those things cause we spent the last 50 years prioritizing profit over all else. It didnt have to be like this.

[-] Rhaedas@fedia.io 27 points 5 hours ago

Sagan always said we had the potential to be better, but he was also concerned it was an uphill climb. Where Carlin got angrier with age, I think Sagan would just have been disappointed in us. Especially in the fall back into ignorance and superstition, something else he warned about in The Demon-Haunted World. Every quote you can find from that book is profound, but this one is eerily hard hitting:

“We've arranged a global civilization in which most crucial elements profoundly depend on science and technology. We have also arranged things so that almost no one understands science and technology. This is a prescription for disaster. We might get away with it for a while, but sooner or later this combustible mixture of ignorance and power is going to blow up in our faces.”

[-] Carvex@lemmy.world 11 points 5 hours ago

I don't believe planet self-destruction is the The great filter, just our filter and we failed. In all fairness it's probably the first of many future filters that would have gotten us too.

[-] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 33 points 5 hours ago

The irony of filling up my screen with an advertisement as I try to read about what will be the collapse of our civilization is not lost on me.

[-] DirkMcCallahan@lemmy.world 26 points 5 hours ago

So, what does this all mean for us? It means we have even less time to get our act together. Reducing emissions isn’t just a good idea — it’s crucial.

Our planet’s systems are interconnected in ways we’re only beginning to understand. If we want to keep things from getting worse, we need to act now. Every little bit counts, and the clock is ticking.

In other words...we're fucked.

[-] GhiLA@sh.itjust.works 9 points 5 hours ago

Well, yeah.

You were expecting maybe all of the countries of the world to absolve their differences and join hands to defeat the problems of climate change?

Sounds kinda like a fairy tale.

[-] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world -1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Yes, we are likely seeing the last generation of humans on earth.

[-] protist@mander.xyz 4 points 1 hour ago

We're likely to see a lot of suffering and disruption along with increased mortality, but humans are way too resourceful to go extinct, even with a severe disruption to the climate

[-] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Maybe, depends on how uninhabitable the planet actually gets. We think we know what that looks like, but there are pretty wide error bars around the worst case scenarios.

[-] Fiivemacs@lemmy.ca 8 points 5 hours ago

We might be able to mitigate some of the effects of we start removing the actual problems people...granted the solution isn't exact 'legal'

[-] floofloof@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

I agree that it's going to take popular action to prevent the capitalists from continuing as usual, whatever form this action takes. But it's not going to happen until we're organized and prepared to risk our own safety for the greater good.

[-] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 16 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Great Britain will get more than chilly. Arable land was expected to drop from 32% of the region down to 22% by 2080, slashing their economy by a third. If the AMOC is already showing signs of breakdown, that timeline will need to be shortened.

[-] Ioughttamow@fedia.io 19 points 5 hours ago

But I was told capitalism was the best economic system in the world! Would the capitalists lie to me?

[-] RecursiveParadox@lemmy.world 4 points 1 hour ago

Close your eyes and think of England....

[-] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 3 points 6 hours ago
[-] deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 2 points 5 hours ago

I'm reasonably sure I read a Clive Cussler book with that as the evil villain's plot.

this post was submitted on 25 Nov 2024
195 points (99.5% liked)

Climate - truthful information about climate, related activism and politics.

5296 readers
638 users here now

Discussion of climate, how it is changing, activism around that, the politics, and the energy systems change we need in order to stabilize things.

As a starting point, the burning of fossil fuels, and to a lesser extent deforestation and release of methane are responsible for the warming in recent decades: Graph of temperature as observed with significant warming, and simulated without added greenhouse gases and other anthropogentic changes, which shows no significant warming

How much each change to the atmosphere has warmed the world: IPCC AR6 Figure 2 - Thee bar charts: first chart: how much each gas has warmed the world.  About 1C of total warming.  Second chart:  about 1.5C of total warming from well-mixed greenhouse gases, offset by 0.4C of cooling from aerosols and negligible influence from changes to solar output, volcanoes, and internal variability.  Third chart: about 1.25C of warming from CO2, 0.5C from methane, and a bunch more in small quantities from other gases.  About 0.5C of cooling with large error bars from SO2.

Recommended actions to cut greenhouse gas emissions in the near future:

Anti-science, inactivism, and unsupported conspiracy theories are not ok here.

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS