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[-] vga@sopuli.xyz 4 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

The Islamist militant group Hayat Tahrir al-Sham (HTS)

Uh no thanks. It's hard to be sympathetic towards any official side of that war because they're all major assholes. Why do they only have socialists and islamists in those areas? Why hasn't liberalism and freedom taken root in the Near East?

[-] trashgirlfriend@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago

Liberalism and its "freedom" hasn't taken root because:

  1. Liberals fucked the whole region in the first place.

  2. Shareholder profits are not going to inspire the masses to take up arms and fight.

Liberalism cannot provide a better future for anyone, so the people turn towards the groups who try to provide a change.

Extremely funny you say this in this situation since there is a group here fighting for freedom and democracy but they're stinky reds, so you'll hate them.

[-] Randelung@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago

I liked the image I saw a few days back. Conservatives will play to your base needs (food/water, shelter, family), while Liberals/Socialists expect selflessness and assume all your needs are already met, including self-fulfilment.

Especially in the poorer and war torn regions of the world, the former is magnitudes more appealing. If non-extremist groups want to have a chance, they need to cover the bases first.

[-] verity_kindle@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 days ago

That's a good elevator speech, can I borrow it? Christmas dinner with my mom's side of the family is coming up quick.

[-] Randelung@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Of course, lemme look for the original.

E: can't find it anymore. It speaks about the top and bottom three layers of Maslow's pyramid and how liberals expect transcendence and selflessness, while conservatives falsely promise the bottom three layers and act like the rest don't matter.

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[-] Doom@ttrpg.network 3 points 5 days ago

the fuck is wrong with socialism here?

[-] vga@sopuli.xyz 0 points 4 days ago

To such a simple question I can offer a simple answer: Everything.

The real answer is not that simple of course. There's some good ideas in socialism.

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