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submitted 1 year ago by V01t45@lemmy.fmhy.ml to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

Hi, I am a guy in early thirties with a wife and two kids and whenever I go on youtube it always suggests conservative things like guys dunking on women, ben shapiro reacting to some bullshit, joe rogan, all the works. I almost never allow it to go to that type of video and when I do it is either by accident or by curiosity. My interest are gaming, standup comedy, memes, react videos, metalurgy, machining, blacksmithing, with occasional songs and videos about funny bullshit and I am not from america and I consider myself pretty liberal if I had to put it into terms used in america. But european liberal, so by american standards a socialist. Why does it recommend this shit to me, is this some kind of vector for radicalization of guys in my category? Do you have similar experience?

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[-] MiloSquirrel@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

For me if I ever look up warhammer 40k it immediately starts sending me losers like quartering or other channels like him.

Like, bo youtube, I don't want to hear about how feminism and "wokes" are ruining warhammer. I also don't want to be sent Sargon of Carl videos. Uhg. Lmao

[-] NoMoreCocaine@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Not to be that guy, but you can say "don't recommend this channel again" to YouTube. I haven't seen Quartering, Asmogold, etc for years now. Unless you search for them.

[-] Tartas1995@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago

I had the issue that I got Andrew Tate shit recommended. I said don't recommend that, and block the uploader. Youtube still suggested me that video. Exactly that video.

[-] 80085@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

If I use a private window, and don't log in I get a lot of right-wing stuff. I've noticed it probably depends on IP/location as well. If at work, youtube seems recommend me things other people at the office listen to.

If I'm logged in, I only get occasional right-wing recommendations interspersed with the left-wing stuff I typically like. About 1/20 videos are right-wing.

YouTube Shorts is different. It's almost all thirst-traps and right-wing, hustle culture stuff for me.

It could also be because a lot of the people who watch the same videos you do tend to also watch right-wing stuff.

In general, the algorithm tries to boost the stuff that maximizes "engagement," which is usually outrage-type stuff.

[-] masquenox@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Right-wing media is well-funded.

[-] TheKingBee@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

You need to train your algorithm.

When you hover over those videos there will be three dots in the lower right hand corner use either not interested or don't recommend this channel to clear the right wing trash from your feed.

On videos you do like you need to do some engagement, watch complete videos, thumbs up (or down it doesn't matter) and comment.

Do that for a few days and your feed should clear up.

[-] xthedeerlordx@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

your feed should clear up.

This works for like a few days, then inevitably the cycle begins again....

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[-] Korne127@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Social Media in general has that habit of furthered spreading far right content and dragging people into such content bubbles.

[-] Wahots@pawb.social 0 points 1 year ago

Clear your history! I limit a lot of what Google collects. If I see videos trending in that direction, I clear youtube and start fresh.

[-] baru@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

You can have Google clear things automatically so it'll only keep things for a certain amount of months.

Without any history Google often shows pretty extreme videos, so in my experience the lack of any history is not good.

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[-] SaltySalamander@lemmy.fmhy.ml 0 points 1 year ago

Why does it recommend this shit to me

Because you, or someone using your account, has watched this type of shit in the past.

[-] elkaki@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago

Not necessarily, although YouTube shorts may be it's own thing in terms of algorithm I frequently see andrew tate, ben shapiro, jordan peterdon clips despite disliking and inmediatly scrolling past when I see their faces. Also I have encountered a lot of anti feminism content of the likes of 2014 this year, where someone is seen mocking "feminists" making what seems like stupid remark and getting owned with some sigma face meme from the american psycho guy and music.

it has been the case multiple times that the YouTube algorithm makes weird connections which often lead to right wing channels being promoted. Or sometimes an entire subsection of creatores are libked with the alt right without being direct (the old atheism sphere, gaming channels are common ones too)

[-] WndyLady@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago

I very rarely use YouTube, but I've noticed that when I start listening to older top 40 or contemporary bluegrass, those videos drop in

[-] RickyRigatoni@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Youtube really said "you're old, you must be racist" lmao

[-] Cyder@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago

Maybe you have the same problem I have: my wife is still a republican. When that kind of stuff shows up, I know she has been watching it on the family PC. She's not that tech savvy, so I usually go in later and block or limit some of it. It's a pain to fight the algorithms.

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[-] buckykat@lemmy.fmhy.ml 0 points 1 year ago

three dots -> don't recommend channel

use it on anything even a little sus

[-] wtvr@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago

It's because you are a guy in your 30s. You (and me) are in a shitty demographic so the algorithm peddles us shit. It doesn't matter how many times I list shitheel vids by the ppl you me mentioned as "do not recommend channel", I will always have Rogan or Peterson popping up in my feed to ruin my day. It drives me crazy

[-] HubbleST@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago

One thing I noticed about browsing the youtube homepage on PC is if your mouse hovers over a video, it starts playing, and that puts it in your watch history. So you might be accidentally adding a trash video it recommended to your watch history while looking at the other offerings. You can disable the "mouse hover auto play" by clicking your profile pic in the top right > settings > playback and performance > inline playback.

[-] maniajack@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

I'll see major swings in the algorithm from time to time (a week of bass guitar video recommendations for some reason), but I can usually trace back a video or two that I watched that it just decided to try and cram the topic down my throat. I would just say make sure you keep avoiding the conservative vids to try and get the recommendations to stop. I wonder if maybe one of your kids is watching videos on your account and skewing it?

[-] harmonea@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

(a week of bass guitar video recommendations for some reason)

Sometimes I wish youtube's algorithm were sentient so I could shake it and ask why the fuck--

For me it was a week of growing your own backyard basil. Not herb gardens, not vegetables, not self-sufficiency in general. Literally just basil. I don't even own a single plant.

[-] NightOwl@lemmy.one 1 points 1 year ago

It can also be linked based where it recommends videos that conservatives have enjoyed that seem unrelated. Like maybe watching home improvement videos and historical war videos then the algorithm feeding new content that seems unrelated but actually is according to it, since it's trying to expose you to new interests to expand the time you spend there.

Best I found is just not using YouTube with an account and having cookies cleared on exit, or using newpipe (Android) and freetube (desktop) which let's you have an accountless subscription feed with Adblock and sponsorblock support.

[-] perviouslyiner@lemm.ee -1 points 1 year ago

Fix the input not the algorithm - either disable watch history, or clear it of anyone who you don't trust their viewers to recommend positive channels.

If you watch something that turns out to worsen your experience, purge it from the view history, undo any likes and remove any comments.

[-] A55A@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago

Just use Odysee, the YouTube algorithm is fully cooked from millions of hours of pure crap being posted every day.

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