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Do you know what we call herbal medicine that works? Medicine.
That said if I want low impact results for a low impact illness, think sore throat, I wot go to the GP, I'll drink hot drinks
Conventional medicine, because it actually works and has a basis in reality.
Herbal medicine works and has a basis in reality as well, its not witchcraft, it has been around for thousands of years. There is stuff you cant cure with simple herbs though and modern medicine is more convenient. No need to be so condescending.
The stuff that works in herbal medicine have been studied and improved in modern medicine. The two can’t and shouldn’t be equated. Anyone claiming herbal medicine should be respected and not condemned is a crook and/or idiot. Most proponents are crooks, trying to sell things they know or don’t care if they work.
Things like paracetamol and lithium have a basis in herbal medicine. Paracetamol was improved to stop the horrendous damage the herbal medicine did to your kidneys. Lithium was quantified and controlled to minimise the impact of taking a toxic mental (Lithium was sold as natural healing waters found in springs, it was scientist investigating these waters that identified lithium as an element), newer less toxic medicines are now available for these conditions.
Medicine displaced herbal remedies. The regulation of medicine means the only practionationers of herbal medicines are unregulated crooks.
I dont know what youre thinking of when you are saying 'herbal medicine' but it is clearly not the same as me. When I drink camomile tea for an upset stomach, which 100% works, how is that me being an unregulated crook?
The way you phrased your comment made it appear like you're saying they're the just as effective in all regards as each other. A medication will provably make a difference via more mechanical biology, whereas a herbal tea will make a difference with the mind. The main difference is the way people feel better. Using a painkiller for a chronic pain is better than drinking a herbal tea, but if you stub your toe both will work. Needing to say herbal tea isn't witchcraft, has a basis in reality and has been around for thousands of years comes across as defensive. (In this case a more broad defense of alternative medicine.) Putting your comment in a more down to earth way would've avoided the, less than favourible, interpretation by commenters. (Mentioning that the plecibo effect is real or actual active ingredients in some herbal teas would also have helped.)
I never said they were equally effective, I simply stated that it is not baseless, replying to an incredibly rude commenter who was extremely confident in their scoentifically wrong statement, thats why I mocked the commenter with the witchcraft part. Also I literally said 'there is stuff you cant simply cure with herbs'. If anyone thinks I valued the two equally they didnt read past the first 3 words of my comment.
People are so quick to start a witchhunt based on absolutely nothing. This is pretty sad...
i believe that all the ingredients in pharmaceutical medicines ultimately come from nature, and we can find those remedies ourselves in plants
Even if that were correct, are you choosing the plants that have those same chemicals when you choose a remedy? If you are, why not use the normal medicine?
To be clear, yes some plants do have legitimate medicinal uses, but I really think you shouldn't be handwaving health decisions like this.
are you choosing the plants that have those same chemicals when you choose a remedy?
yes, i'd research what my doctor told me to take and find the alternative. like example: if they told me to take paracetamol because a headache, i'd choose ginger instead and go to sleep after. as far as i know, paracetamol has side effects to make us sleepy and makes us wanna take a nap, which is the natural way to treat a headache. ginger also has this effect. i won't take any medicine they gave me unless it's a serious issue that can take my life like cancer or diabetes. my mom has diabetes, she was using medicine they gave her, not going any better. then she stopped, she changed her remedies to a herbal alternative. she started to drink clitoria or we call it "telang" in my country every single morning. went to check her health and went much much better. idk why tbh. not my personal experience but that's what i've seen from my closest one.
If you are, why not use the normal medicine?
well, because i can make it on my own, why not?
I'm glad you're putting some thought into the remedies, at least.
I could tell you that regardless of your personal experience with your mom, statistically blah blah blah, normal medicine works the best. And it would be true, but I'm not going to bother you with it today. There are a million reasons why your mom's situation could have worked out the way that it did, and I don't know enough to speculate why it worked that way.
well, because i can make it on my own, why not?
I mean, don't you think it's a little egotistical to think that your solution would be as effective as the one that's based on the same principles but has been refined by at least dozens of trained professionals? You're only doing this with stuff where effectiveness doesn't matter too much, so maybe the mental benefits of making your own herbal remedies outweighs any physical downsides to doing so in your case, but the effectiveness gap would be a compelling reason why not to do it yourself. But like I said, if you're aware that herbal solutions are less potent, you don't actually need that potency, and you enjoy making the herbal stuff, there's no harm in using it for common ailments.
time effectiveness doesn't matter for me, but if you're talking about the effectiveness about the meds especially for little issues, for me, it's the same. i just don't like something instant, i do enjoy the process of everything that i do though. just asking for opinion here, all opinions are welcome 👌
i just don’t like something instant, i do enjoy the process of everything that i do though
Exactly; the process itself feels good. I hope you continue to enjoy it.
just asking for opinion here, all opinions are welcome
By declaring all opinions on a factual topic equally valid, you're giving the same weight to reality as you do to misinformation. I do not welcome misinformation. This may seem close-minded, but having an open mind doesn't mean accepting everything as equally true.
By declaring all opinions on a factual topic equally valid
i'm not saying all opinions are valid, i'm a truth seeker myself i don't want misinformation or spreading it. but people can say what they think, it's just us who decides is that info is true or not. that's why i call it as "opinion" not "argument"
tbousands of chemists over multi decades
Yup. Even the most crazy experimental treatments have gone through dozens. Common medicines are one of the most studied substances on the planet.
Herbal stuff for simple things and symptoms, like a sore throat or headache. Modern medicine for anything I can't treat on my own.
If I have a cold I opt for chicken soup and orange juice. Not because I think it will make me healthy, but because it will make me feel good.
I don't get regular medicine, not because I'm averse to taking it, but because I don't have insurance and can't afford regular medicine.
I grew up with a doctor that believed in alternative medicine and a mom afraid of using medicine except when absolutely necessary. I was also perpetually dealing with colds and headaches. Now I take cold medicine when a cold starts and a painkiller to sleep well during the cold and they last about a quarter if the time.
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