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Flight path of a plane that took off from Damascus shorty after news broke that Assad left the city towards unknown destination, which might have been Latakia on Syrian coast which is still under SAA control as of now. Terrain in place where flightradar stopped tracking that plane isn't especially suited for emergency landing

Shortly after crash Syrian Army Command informs officers about fall of the regime https://xcancel.com/Alhadath_Brk/status/1865587913817305454#m

update: it's not spoofed transponder data or controlled landing, locals reported plane crash in the area. rumors so far, but dawn will break soon in Syria and we'll know https://xcancel.com/Schizointel/status/1865593800678130081#m

clarification: there's some chance that Assad went out of Damascus before on other, private jet, so it's not sure and it's all conjecture on unproven information

update 2: there's a claim by Russian media that Assad is in Moscow, so he would have to flee on some earlier plane, but no photos as of now. Still, looked mildly credible at the time

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[-] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 85 points 1 week ago

this is the kind of superpower that chronic insomnia gets you

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[-] Milk_Sheikh@lemm.ee 72 points 1 week ago

You know when NCD has actual writeups and citations shit is getting real. Getting Wagner coup vibes, what a time to be alive where we can glimpse into the sausage of geopolitics being made in real time.

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[-] Lupus@feddit.org 65 points 1 week ago

Honestly guys, it's not the first time I got breaking world news from this community and I am disappointed, I thought this was non-credible?

[-] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 38 points 1 week ago

Yes, but to be truly non-credible, one must first poses great knowledge and insight.

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 21 points 1 week ago

"It takes a wise man to be truly stupid"- Sun Tzu

[-] Artyom@lemm.ee 10 points 1 week ago

The funniest part is it may be days before news starts reporting he was probably on this plane. They'll want to wait for some sort of confirmation, which probably doesn't exist.

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[-] Minarble@aussie.zone 62 points 1 week ago

Can we speed run the Russsian collapse as well?

It’s going to shit me if Putin falls on the 22nd Jan so the orange boofhead can claim the credit.

[-] superkret@feddit.org 33 points 1 week ago

Would he claim credit, or announce a day off mourning?

[-] Minarble@aussie.zone 30 points 1 week ago

Probably both he usually takes both sides on every issue at some point.

At least the balkanisation and collapse of Russia will be a simple thing for such a stable genius to manage.

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[-] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 53 points 1 week ago
[-] lambdabeta@lemmy.ca 40 points 1 week ago

One of the rare cases where I hear of a death and check wikipedia to still see the word "is". I wonder how long confirmation will take.

[-] dsilverz@thelemmy.club 27 points 1 week ago

There may be no changes on the article yet, but there's a lot of ongoing discussion at the Discussion page of the article:

[-] Lupus@feddit.org 14 points 1 week ago

German Wikipedia already has past tense and a small paragraph about Assad leaving the country for an unknown location.

[-] BigDanishGuy@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 week ago

Is it sourced properly? Because killing people on wikipedia without sources isn't helping wikipedia's credibility.

[-] Gurfaild@feddit.org 11 points 1 week ago

At least the current version of the article uses past tense when referring to his presidency but doesn't claim he's dead.

[-] feedum_sneedson@lemmy.world 33 points 1 week ago

I did hear it here first, you're right.

[-] Valmond@lemmy.world 25 points 1 week ago

No, I heard it first here.

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[-] nuke@sh.itjust.works 30 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Today is a day of victory for chins everywhere

[-] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 26 points 1 week ago

Nooooooo you can't break credible news on NCD!!1!!! 😭

NCD: Haha Illusion-76 go brrrrrrr (crash)

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[-] BombOmOm@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago
[-] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 20 points 1 week ago

yeah this also

he was done either way as damascus was handed over few hours ago

[-] BombOmOm@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Yea, it's amazing how fast this can go down. Been F5ing Live UA map every few hours the last few days and almost every time there were notable changes.

This also cements Russia's loss of their only notable Mediterranean port.

[-] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 1 week ago

port and airbase now. and SAM site if it ends up being the cause

[-] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 1 week ago

that would be dumbest and highest profile friendly fire ever. are we sure that Girkin wasn't exiled to Syria?

[-] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 21 points 1 week ago

Holy fuck lol. I sorta called it.

[-] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 34 points 1 week ago
[-] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 16 points 1 week ago

well it still could have been friendly fire

[-] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 12 points 1 week ago

I didn't say that it would be insurgent fire.

Just that Weak Chin MaGee would be shot down.

I hope to see trump flee to Russia one day.

[-] annHowe@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 week ago

I hope he doesn't get the chance to abscond and is held accountable for his crimes. Not likely to happen but one can dream.

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[-] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 19 points 1 week ago

Holy shit! The Russians shot him out of the sky??

[-] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 46 points 1 week ago

that would be pretty stupid so it's definitely an option

we can guess that 1. assad was on that plane, and 2. it did something that looked like a bad malfunction and 3. there are rumors of plane crash in the area. maybe it was some stupid reason like mechanical malfunction, or maybe friendly fire from russian S300 at Tartus, or maybe unfriendly fire from whatever SAM HTS now has. or something else

[-] SreudianFlip@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 week ago
[-] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 10 points 1 week ago

Yeah, Assad has killed a lot of his own people even without getting into Islamist stuff.

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[-] jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de 18 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The plane flew over opposition controlled territory in Homs, and then it started losing altitude very fast. I think the Russians didn't have the chance of doing anything funny this time.

[-] Shit@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 week ago

I watched that live. The video from the airport a few minutes before was surreal.

[-] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 11 points 1 week ago

Link plz this is crazy

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[-] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 16 points 1 week ago

Good example of why you don't trust internet "journalism."

It's just a rumour until you get confirmation from the AP. People tend to think the mainstream media is hiding things, but it's usually down to them not publishing unconfirmed rumours while the internet will. And here's an example of why that is. Many of these things wind up being false. It's better to hear about what actually happened two days later than spend time forming opinions about what might have happened right now.

[-] nuke@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

It's better to hear about what actually happened two days later than spend time forming opinions about what might have happened right now

Lmao do you know where you are??? This is NCD, I have recklessly violent opinions over shit that only exists in my head.

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[-] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 week ago

True? False? You still heard it here, first!

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[-] MooseTheDog@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

Curious if this is just another straw, or maybe enough to motivate Russian citizens to start dealing with all this hay.

[-] Morphit@feddit.uk 9 points 1 week ago

BBC article mentioning this flight. A tweet from FR24 says that the aircraft "was old with an older transponder generation, so some data might be bad or missing", that it was "flying in an area of GPS jamming, so some data might be bad", and that there was not aware of any airports in the area where the signal was lost.

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