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seize the means of production

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[-] Polymath@lemmy.dbzer0.com 52 points 6 days ago

Ever since I learned that pretty much all utilities are publicly-traded stocks on the stock market as for-profit companies that wealthy mfs talk about "diversifying their portfolio" with "in the energy sector" I've been so disturbed.

The idea that utilities are for-profit is just so f***ed up and deranged.

[-] cadekat@pawb.social 26 points 6 days ago

You are allowed to say "fucked" 🤣

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[-] JargonWagon@lemmy.world 18 points 6 days ago

The fact that most companies are for profit is deranged. Utilities are necessary for day to day life, they go hand in hand with having a roof over your head in my book. Real estate should also be non-profit. Insurance should also be non-profit, put the excess money to use by fixing the things that are insured. Hospitals/medical anything should be non-profit. Food and water should be non-profit. Internet connectivity should be non-profit as well.

Give back to the citizens.

[-] Overshoot2648@lemm.ee 6 points 6 days ago

Not all at all. Lots of utilities are Consumer Cooperatives. Lots of people working at those cooperatives don't even know that consumer and worker cooperatives are market socialist and tend to be conservative which annoys the heck out of me.

[-] skulkingaround@sh.itjust.works 12 points 6 days ago

Tbf, my city has a publicly owned utility company and it suuuuucks. Literally writing this comment on my phone during a 12 hour power outage during perfect weather.

[-] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 21 points 6 days ago

I bet it's being deliberately underfunded and/or mismanaged to support an eventual attempt to privatize.

[-] skulkingaround@sh.itjust.works 7 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Deliberately underfunded or mismanaged, maybe. It's been like this since the 90s at least. But I don't think they need any intent for a buyout for it to suck. Afaik, there is zero interest from any private buyers for our utilities.

If I had to point to a specific failure, it's that the rates are set by city council, and raising them is wildly unpopular. Everyone who proposed it loses re-election. We have some of the cheapest power in the world but fat lot of good that does when it's not on.

[-] Frostbeard@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

How does that work? They still have to buy the power from someone, and those prices have increased. Or do they own their own power plant/turbine/whatever. Then they should sell the excess and subsidize their citizens.

[-] skulkingaround@sh.itjust.works 4 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

They buy most power from TVA, the rate city council controls is the fixed rate markup they charge on top. Our power is $0.07/kwh by the time you pay for it.

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[-] ef9357@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 6 days ago

I had a gas stove once ands HATED cooking. Hated the smell and never felt safe.

[-] 1985MustangCobra@lemmy.ca 13 points 6 days ago

yeah gas stoves are sketchy but if it's installed properly you should never have an issue. I prefer induction, fuck coil stoves. i have a electric coil stove and i fucking hate it.

[-] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 4 days ago

coil stoves are okay provided they have glass tops, i have a coil stove with fucking cast iron plates on it which are IMPOSSIBLE to clean and they stay hot for ages after i'm done cooking..

still perfectly fine to cook with, though. it's just that anything else is even better.

[-] 1985MustangCobra@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 days ago

i thought coil stoves with glass on top were induction stoves? i have the coil stove with the coil exposed. its a peice of shit but i have no choice since i live in a apartment.

[-] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

no, you can tell whether it's an induction stove if it doesn't get hot, induction stoves heat up the pot by vibrating the magnetic metal atoms in it.

regular coil stoves are resistive, that's why transparent-topped ones glow, the coil is literally glowing hot like an old light bulb.

[-] Juice@midwest.social 6 points 6 days ago

Coherent and good!

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