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seize the means of production

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[-] RagingHungryPanda@lemm.ee 78 points 1 week ago

Nitpick: eminent domain is not the means for publicizing a company, that's for land for public works

[-] Annoyed_Crabby 23 points 1 week ago

Why not just use electric stove/heater/whatever? That way you're using something that's both cleaner, safer, and make more sense to nationalise if it haven't.

[-] CubitOom@infosec.pub 20 points 1 week ago

Although electric is great and can be self generated by things like solar panels.

Not everyone an afford to convert a working appliance to an electric powered version. If I were to replace my boiler today for example I'd have to pay about $40,000-$60,000 USD for parts and labor. Eventually I will but I'll have to plan and budget for it.

There is also something to be said about reducing the waste of switching out working appliances for different fuel sources. If the goal is the help the environment, then it might be more beneficial to use the appliance until it reaches end of life. Especially of the components are hazardous or not easily recyclable.

If something needs to be replaced, then we can advocate for electric appliances. But it's wasteful and perhaps unreasonable to replace something that is in great condition and has years of life left in it.

Also, there could still be legitimate uses for natural gas like for a generator incase of power outages.

At the end of the day, the point of this post is simply that utility companies should be a service for the community and not run for profit.

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[-] Windex007@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago

If you wanna know what it looks like to have a city own the utilities and operate them for the public interest, one can look at Medicine Hat, Alberta.

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[-] Ioughttamow@fedia.io 12 points 1 week ago

Nationalize this!

[-] rc__buggy@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 week ago

means of consumption?

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