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[-] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 102 points 2 weeks ago

Growing up I was under the impression that no one could ban books in the US. Fahrenheit 451 was a book we read and studied in sixth grade. I think that's around 12 years old-ish. That's when we also started learning the constitution and basics of law.

It blows my mind we're going through this nonsense right now

[-] GhiLA@sh.itjust.works 17 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

The second I heard Trump got elected, I gave standard ebooks $10 and grabbed their entire library, and did a "shopping spree" on zlibrary.

how do you...

Grab fiction and nonfiction from their collections page. That covers every book.

History repeats itself. Left, right, left, right. One foot after the other. It'll be here soon. Who knows, you might live to see a bread line four blocks long by age 70.

Perk up!

[-] Plagiatus@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago

Might also want to check out https://gutenberg.org, it's got about 70x the books that standard ebooks has, even if its not as well refurbished.

[-] GhiLA@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I have a dirty pull of their site from a torrent that I need to clean up. My issue is cross-referencing it with standard to see what I have and don't. I might get Calibre to handle it if it happens to identify them as the same book, I'll just import Gutenberg afterwards and skip the existing.

[-] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 14 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Growing up I didn't think abortion was controversial, only very religious conservative people standing outside abortion clinics find it controversial. Wasn't until we overturned roe v wade when I realized there are way more people who disagree with abortion than I initially thought.

[-] cheers_queers@lemm.ee 6 points 2 weeks ago

interesting perspective. i grew up in a super conservative circle and i was under the impression that most people found it morally wrong. in reality, the vast majority of Americans support access to abortion in some way, regardless if they would personally have one themselves

[-] PresidentCamacho@lemm.ee 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I remember learning through multiple personal experiences some time during highschool that some adults were vastly less intelligent and wise than some of my fellow 16 yr olds, it was shocking to me. Honestly I think some people hit puberty and just began coasting, ego and entitlement outweighed curiosity, and they began to live with the belief that society's collection of history, science, and reasoning, was worth less than their own personal opinion.

[-] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 4 points 2 weeks ago

Oh, absolutely. Peaking in highschool is a very real thing.

[-] PresidentCamacho@lemm.ee 3 points 2 weeks ago

its a shame those same people are also 90% of the management field.

[-] perishthethought@lemm.ee 3 points 2 weeks ago

You're right of course, but your 6th grade teacher should have told you that the subject of the book could happen again. Freedom, eternal vigilance, and so on.

[-] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 22 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I mean, it was sixth grade. They could have said that. I didn't keep the transcripts.

[-] Agent641@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago

You don't have a pornographic memory?

[-] Zier@fedia.io 14 points 2 weeks ago

I do, and I like what you're not wearing right now. Mmmmmm! Yeahhh!

[-] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

"If you'll recall, in our last class, you fucked me so good."

[-] PancakesCantKillMe@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

No, it's a photogenic memory.

[-] Iheartcheese@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

You don't have the study material?

[-] stevedice@sh.itjust.works 66 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Them banning the bans makes me chuckle.

[-] Agent641@lemmy.world 33 points 2 weeks ago

Conservatives should have banned ban-bans first if they wanted to get their way.

[-] Zachariah@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago

Isn’t that in Project 2025 somewhere?

[-] Agent641@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

Yes but project 2025 has been banned so we are all good there

[-] palordrolap@fedia.io 4 points 2 weeks ago

"Somehow, Palpatine returned..."

[-] pruwybn@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 2 weeks ago

Then Democrats hit 'em with the ban ban ban ban.

[-] Hupf@feddit.org 6 points 2 weeks ago

Wi nøt trei a høliday in Sweden thi yer?

[-] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I recommend reading the US constitution. Basically this is what the Bill of Rights is.

Also many States added bans on banning of abortions to their Constitutions for the same reason.

We need a lot more of these, like bans on bans of encrypted apps without backdoors. Bans on bans of "vagrancy" and other laws made to target black people. Bans on book bans in prison.

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

The land of freedom has reached the point that we must ban banning things rather than framing it as guaranteeing the right to d9 a thing.

[-] scarabic@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

I’m interested how this works, technically. I’m against banning books. I’m also against elementary school kids picking up Naked Lunch in the school library and leaving through it. I presume no librarian would elect to have that book anyway, so it will never be tested whether it can be barred somehow. There are also probably soft mechanisms that get used like “it’s in the library and you can check it out with a parental permission form.” Anyway how to handle obscene material has been a question since the beginning of time.

[-] TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 weeks ago

The bill permits restriction in the case of “developmentally inappropriate material” for certain age groups. The measure also requires local school boards and the governing bodies of public libraries to set up policies for book curation and the removal of library materials, including a way to address concerns over certain items.

[-] scarabic@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

Leaving a gap open for “developmentally inappropriate” makes sense in the face of it, but when Evangelicals try to ban any book that has a depiction of a gay character, this is the rationale they use: that kids should not be subjected to sexual material. I’m not saying their argument holds water, just that the gap left open by this prohibition is the exact favorite entry point of book ban abusers.

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[-] stevedice@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

The school would still have to be the one buying the books so they just won't buy any book they deem inappropriate. I'm sure this is mainly just to stop zealots from banning everything related to evolution. Also, I haven't read Naked Lunch but from what I know of it, I doubt it has anything kids can't get on the Internet nowadays.

From the article:

The bill permits restriction in the case of “developmentally inappropriate material” for certain age groups. The measure also requires local school boards and the governing bodies of public libraries to set up policies for book curation and the removal of library materials, including a way to address concerns over certain items.

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[-] Thcdenton@lemmy.world 30 points 2 weeks ago

I used the ban to ban the ban

[-] PixellatedDave@lemmy.world 27 points 2 weeks ago

I somehow took this to mean the exact opposite of what the title meant and was confused how this was uplifting news. I think it's time I had a little nap.

[-] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 weeks ago

The fact that this is considered uplifting news is not something I find very uplifting

[-] LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 weeks ago

I find a legislative commitment to literacy is far superior to assuming we will always have the right to learn freely in this country.

[-] Juice@midwest.social 8 points 2 weeks ago

Well considering what the last dozen or so headlines you've read about banned books were probably about, I can see how you would make that assumption

[-] Aimeeloulm@feddit.uk 4 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah, I had the same reaction as well, through I may have an excuse as my fibromyalgia is flaring up :/

[-] betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world 25 points 2 weeks ago

I'm glad they're taking steps to oppose fuckery. I'm disgusted that these steps have become necessary (or at least prudent).

[-] Infomatics90@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 weeks ago

can they prohibit foundations of geopolitics?

[-] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago

Probably not, seeing as that is also a book. Making Dugin’s ideas harder to find doesn’t fix anything anyway, challenging them on the merits does.

[-] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 7 points 2 weeks ago

The bill permits restriction in the case of “developmentally inappropriate material” for certain age groups. The measure also requires local school boards and the governing bodies of public libraries to set up policies for book curation and the removal of library materials, including a way to address concerns over certain items.

I was thinking that probably not all books are suited to a school library lol

[-] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Tbf most of the ones "banned" are banned because of language (I found as many of the PDFs as I could one time and searched the documents for "fuck," which many of them contained, or other words that would be banned in schools), or in one case a graphic novel with a panel depicting a blowjob, and I have been corrected before that it "wasn't technically a blowjob it was 'strap on play,'" but, c'mon strap on play is banned in schools too whether it's between straights or gays. Sure it's educational, but it's not the same as an anti racist book that has the N-word in a historical context (TKAM) or something. Most of those are still going to be banned due to that, the rape scenes in a few, "fuck," "cocksucker," etc.

This seems more like a feel good measure just to say "See we fixed it! All those same books are still banned, but now we're claiming the actual reasons instead of homophobia." I'd be interested to see an itemized breakdown of the ISBNs before/after.

For reference, here's a PDF to Gender Queer on Archive, one of the most popularized, at the top of every "they banned these books" list:

https://archive.org/details/gender-queer-a-memoir-by-maia-kobabe-z-lib.org/page/62/mode/1up

A) Share it with anyone who needs it! I don't believe in limiting the free flow of information online or at the public libraries (bans there are eggregious flat out), but

B) Check out page 62 and page 168, this would never fly in my schools whether it was straight or gay, let's be real.

[-] filister@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

“It was just the prelude… Where they burn books, they will ultimately burn people too.”

Heinrich Haine

[-] nimble@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 weeks ago
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