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Isn't the cost of living in Japan like extremely high, and work basically breaks your back for no overtime?
Afaik Japan is actually kind of cheap. About 1500 per month including rent in Tokyo if this is right.
The overtime thing depends on your actual job. It's not like literally everyone is being exploited.
Not cheap. That's how much a flat for one person costs in Zurich centre. You just have insanely high rents.
I said "including" rent. The rent alone is about 560USD. I haven't lived in Zurich but I know for a fact that Basel is about twice as expensive.
Basel has insanely high rents too.
Lose the "too" and you might be onto something.
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Daycare/Kindergarten is already free across the country for all children starting at 3 years old.
All child healthcare is also free after a prefecture-set monthly premium (usually about 1000 yen).
This policy announcement is specifically about making the 0-3 year old gap free.
Honestly I'd rather just see the government pay more into the shakai hoken (the national insurance that pays for mother/father leave) so people can take more time off from work early on in the kids' lives.
Making it easier for parents to go back to work instead of focusing what's good for children and parents seems par for the course.
The only solution is to make childcare paid i.e. every single person that has a child gets a stipend worth a full time job.
Because it is a full time job.
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Why is it framed like it's something extreme?
I read it as snark/sarcasm. Like they are adding something that already should be.
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Capitalism literally has failed the human race
Who wants to have kids in a place where you’re expected to work 18 hours a day?
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Always has.
Decent first step, but it's going to take an actual investment in making parenthood desirable.
Parenthood is already desirable. There's a biological drive and social conditioning to desire it for most people. The disincentives have just become overwhelming. Children take a hell of a lot of resources. Every aspect of modern society has drained all the time, money, energy, emotional resiliance, social support, etc that people need.
There are many other social factors that make parenthood undesirable in Japan that this does not address.
I'm logically aware that's the case for other people, but I find it perplexing why often times. I was sterilized in my mid 20s, and I haven't ever regretted it.
Same. I suspect fomo. I experience that for other things but I never bought that kids thing.
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Wait until they will discover affordable housing thing.
Housing is pretty affordable in Japan since housing in Japan is not an investment, it depreciates like a car (only the land has value, the house ontop of it has literally negative value since it's assumed anyone will want to bulldoze it), and their lax zoning allows for continual densification to happen.
Wait until you find out it is normal to tip your landlord there
Usually the newer buildings owned by larger real estate groups don't do they kept money thing anymore.
I've only really seen it in buildings owned by small real estate concerns and old dudes.
It's luckily getting kind of pushed out as a normal thing, just slowly.
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Housing in Tokyo is known for being relatively affordable, actually.
ya it's funny when you watch some videos about "small apartments" in tokyo and only to realize they are still more cheaper and spacious than some NA options in big cities.
less expensive more expansive
Not in Tokyo, but farther out in Tokyo's residential cities (outside the 23 wards like Chiba and Saitama)
It's even cheaper the farther you get from train stations. There's a 30 minute walk "cliff" where residential land prices plummet when you're more than 30 minutes walk away from a train station.
If I lived in Tokyo, though, I certainly wouldn't want to be a 30+ minute walk from a train station. That makes leaving home a pretty big task.
30m walking is like a sub-10 minute bike ride. No biggie!
you could always use a bicycle
Wait, so young people aren't having kids because... its insanely expensive to do so? I thought it was because they invented pronouns.
Hmm sarcastic or not sarcastic... This is a hard one. I'm going to guess sarcastic.
Not good to make assumptions. Better to Downvote and report. Even if you guess right, some bigot may think it validates their hatred.
Nice! really good direction. If this good results I hope more places follow suit.
Childcare is outrageous. Daycare for my two kids was more than my mortgage every month. Ive been counting down until they were eligible for public schools
Damn, in Norway is not free, but both public and private kindergartens (1-6) are capped in terms of what they can bill for each month. Which is about 210usd
The rest is paid for though taxes obviously.
Unfortunately for many of us Americans, there is a substantial contingent of our government that would really like to do away with public schools.
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What governments and corporations never understand and will never want to understand is that ....
... it isn't about the quantity of life ... or even the quantity of people who are alive or are born
... it's about the quality of life
If everyone lives a comfortable, safe and fulfilling life without risk of poverty or losing everything they have, then they are more likely to have children and raise them to become productive people who will contribute to society.
Otherwise if you don't take care of people, they will either have no children or a bunch of children that will all grow up to become a burden to society.
Maybe we should be less focused on making more people, and more focused on enabling living people to work together to meet each other's needs?
People will have children. But the only thing that pushes the nationalistic desires to have a positive birth rate is the zealotry around eternal 3%+ growth of financial product. That needs a growing consumer base.
We could be achieving an economic degrowth while simultaneously increasing the standard of living. Instead we have tech billionaires, a venture capitalist class, and a war on women's(as well everyone else's) bodily autonomy.
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four-day workweek
/me franticly googling rents in Japan
The way I've heard it said is "if you live in a developed country, you could probably afford to move to Japan right now. If you get a job in Japan, you'll never afford to move back."
Japan's cost of living is low compared to developed nations, but their average income is also low for a developed nation.
When you move from the US you lose like half your salary for an equivalent position (more now cause of the relative power of the dollar to the yen).
The people that live like kings are the ones that are in Japan at the behest of American companies on American salaries living at like a third of their American costs.
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rent is cheapish, it's everything else that will get you. if you're fine with crushing and all-permeating conformism, ridiculous degree of nationalism and misogyny, how you won't be ever accepted as one of their own as foreigner and famously toxic work culture, feel free to give it a shot
Housing in Japan is cheap. Smaller than you're used to but still cheap.
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That and reduce working hours. Also provide everyone with a job they can fall back on, provided by the state.
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