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[-] Phen@lemmy.eco.br 156 points 11 months ago

Why is it framed like it's something extreme?

[-] uranibaba@lemmy.world 25 points 11 months ago

I read it as snark/sarcasm. Like they are adding something that already should be.

[-] MisterFrog@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago

This was my reaction also. WoOoAh! Free daycare? How radical!! Haha

[-] Skyrmir@lemmy.world 140 points 11 months ago

Decent first step, but it's going to take an actual investment in making parenthood desirable.

[-] cRazi_man@lemm.ee 86 points 11 months ago

Parenthood is already desirable. There's a biological drive and social conditioning to desire it for most people. The disincentives have just become overwhelming. Children take a hell of a lot of resources. Every aspect of modern society has drained all the time, money, energy, emotional resiliance, social support, etc that people need.

[-] anachronist@midwest.social 51 points 11 months ago

Also the future is bleak in the poly-crisis.

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[-] TonyOstrich@lemmy.world 32 points 11 months ago

I'm logically aware that's the case for other people, but I find it perplexing why often times. I was sterilized in my mid 20s, and I haven't ever regretted it.

[-] aoidenpa@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago

Same. I suspect fomo. I experience that for other things but I never bought that kids thing.

[-] PunnyName@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago
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[-] WalnutLum@lemmy.ml 126 points 11 months ago

Daycare/Kindergarten is already free across the country for all children starting at 3 years old.

All child healthcare is also free after a prefecture-set monthly premium (usually about 1000 yen).

This policy announcement is specifically about making the 0-3 year old gap free.

Honestly I'd rather just see the government pay more into the shakai hoken (the national insurance that pays for mother/father leave) so people can take more time off from work early on in the kids' lives.

Making it easier for parents to go back to work instead of focusing what's good for children and parents seems par for the course.

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 16 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

The only solution is to make childcare paid i.e. every single person that has a child gets a stipend worth a full time job.

Because it is a full time job.

[-] kinetic_donor@lemmy.zip 12 points 11 months ago

Daycare/Kindergarten is already free across the country for all children starting at 3 years old.

My information might be biased towards the greater Kanto area (Tokyo/Yokohama), but I'm not aware of anybody paying less then 20000 Yen (a little over $100 USD I guess) per month per child for a place in a public daycare (can be more than double, depending on the area/daycare, and much more for private ones).

It's much more complicated, though. You can receive various support money from the state/prefecture/city, but it's usually less than what you have to pay. And you're not guaranteed a place, and the waiting list cam be long (especially in highly populated areas in Tokyo).

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[-] BKXcY86CHs2k8Coz@sh.itjust.works 126 points 11 months ago

Capitalism literally has failed the human race

[-] PunnyName@lemmy.world 58 points 11 months ago

Always has.

[-] skeezix@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago

Who wants to have kids in a place where you’re expected to work 18 hours a day?

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[-] lnxtx@feddit.nl 71 points 11 months ago

Wait until they will discover affordable housing thing.

[-] Garibaldee@lemm.ee 33 points 11 months ago

Wait until you find out it is normal to tip your landlord there

https://www.interlinkjapan.com/blog/renting/key-money

[-] WalnutLum@lemmy.ml 10 points 11 months ago

Usually the newer buildings owned by larger real estate groups don't do they kept money thing anymore.

I've only really seen it in buildings owned by small real estate concerns and old dudes.

It's luckily getting kind of pushed out as a normal thing, just slowly.

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[-] regul@lemm.ee 30 points 11 months ago

Housing in Tokyo is known for being relatively affordable, actually.

[-] bountygiver@lemmy.ml 32 points 11 months ago

ya it's funny when you watch some videos about "small apartments" in tokyo and only to realize they are still more cheaper and spacious than some NA options in big cities.

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[-] WalnutLum@lemmy.ml 15 points 11 months ago

Not in Tokyo, but farther out in Tokyo's residential cities (outside the 23 wards like Chiba and Saitama)

It's even cheaper the farther you get from train stations. There's a 30 minute walk "cliff" where residential land prices plummet when you're more than 30 minutes walk away from a train station.

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[-] kalleboo@lemmy.world 20 points 11 months ago

Housing is pretty affordable in Japan since housing in Japan is not an investment, it depreciates like a car (only the land has value, the house ontop of it has literally negative value since it's assumed anyone will want to bulldoze it), and their lax zoning allows for continual densification to happen.

[-] riodoro1@lemmy.world 65 points 11 months ago

Oh fuck, oh fuck, our ponzi scheme is about to enter the find out phase.

[-] Fisch@discuss.tchncs.de 45 points 11 months ago

Capitalism is totally different from a ponzi scheme. In a ponzi scheme, the profits go up to the person at the top and you always need new people that come in, otherwise the whole thing will fall apart and the people at the bottom will be the ones that suffer. Under capitalism however, the profits of everyone's work will go up to the top and you always need new workers to come in, otherwise the system will fall apart and the people at the bottom will suffer. Totally different.

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[-] A_Filthy_Weeaboo@lemmy.world 45 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Also...loosen immigration laws?

I know it's a very closed off nation with deep cultural roots that is very weary of outsiders...

[-] Noodle07@lemmy.world 25 points 11 months ago

Racist, the word is racist

[-] OmegaLemmy@discuss.online 23 points 11 months ago

I don't mind finding work in Japan... ...if it wasn't so hostile to workers

So far, Japan is near the bottom of my list for western countries to work at, and I would much rather find a job in Korea instead

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[-] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 38 points 11 months ago

What governments and corporations never understand and will never want to understand is that ....

... it isn't about the quantity of life ... or even the quantity of people who are alive or are born

... it's about the quality of life

If everyone lives a comfortable, safe and fulfilling life without risk of poverty or losing everything they have, then they are more likely to have children and raise them to become productive people who will contribute to society.

Otherwise if you don't take care of people, they will either have no children or a bunch of children that will all grow up to become a burden to society.

[-] chaos@beehaw.org 9 points 11 months ago

"Life without risk of poverty"?! That desperation and fear is the only way I can staff my sweatshops!

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[-] nutsack@lemmy.world 36 points 11 months ago

yes. damn. what an idea

[-] metaStatic@kbin.earth 32 points 11 months ago

four-day workweek

/me franticly googling rents in Japan

[-] ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca 36 points 11 months ago

The way I've heard it said is "if you live in a developed country, you could probably afford to move to Japan right now. If you get a job in Japan, you'll never afford to move back."

Japan's cost of living is low compared to developed nations, but their average income is also low for a developed nation.

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[-] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 23 points 11 months ago

rent is cheapish, it's everything else that will get you. if you're fine with crushing and all-permeating conformism, ridiculous degree of nationalism and misogyny, how you won't be ever accepted as one of their own as foreigner and famously toxic work culture, feel free to give it a shot

[-] veroxii@aussie.zone 13 points 11 months ago

Housing in Japan is cheap. Smaller than you're used to but still cheap.

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[-] Thorngraff_Ironbeard@hexbear.net 31 points 11 months ago

Wait, so young people aren't having kids because... its insanely expensive to do so? I thought it was because they invented pronouns.

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[-] john89@lemmy.ca 22 points 11 months ago

They... they could've done this the entire time?

[-] GaMEChld@lemmy.world 20 points 11 months ago

I think they might also need to maybe leave work at a reasonable time.

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[-] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 18 points 11 months ago

Nice! really good direction. If this good results I hope more places follow suit.

[-] Sc00ter@lemm.ee 16 points 11 months ago

Childcare is outrageous. Daycare for my two kids was more than my mortgage every month. Ive been counting down until they were eligible for public schools

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[-] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 17 points 11 months ago

Isn't the cost of living in Japan like extremely high, and work basically breaks your back for no overtime?

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[-] BestBouclettes@jlai.lu 14 points 11 months ago

Affordable housing, better working conditions, less working hours, efficient healthcare and better pay. It's not hard goddamn it.

[-] FuckyWucky@hexbear.net 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

That and reduce working hours. Also provide everyone with a job they can fall back on, provided by the state.

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