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[-] A_Filthy_Weeaboo@lemmy.world 3 points 30 minutes ago* (last edited 29 minutes ago)

Also...loosen immigration laws?

I know it's a very closed off nation with deep cultural roots that is very weary of outsiders...

[-] Noodle07@lemmy.world 6 points 23 minutes ago

Racist, the word is racist

[-] A_Filthy_Weeaboo@lemmy.world 2 points 12 minutes ago

I know... 😔

[-] jagged_circle@feddit.nl -2 points 38 minutes ago

Fuck this narrative. Decreased birth rates is a major success

[-] Zetta@mander.xyz 1 points 30 minutes ago* (last edited 30 minutes ago)

Why are you of that opinion? Something like 30% of Japan's population is over 65. Low birth rates are obviously not sustainable for them and will have extreme issues for their country if it continues.

[-] Alpha71@lemmy.world 2 points 19 minutes ago

Because it means less people to fuck up the planet.

[-] I_am_10_squirrels@beehaw.org 1 points 6 minutes ago

Infinite growth is unsustainable. A decreasing population will accelerate the collapse of capitalism, when the capitalists run out of cogs.

[-] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 1 points 6 minutes ago

Our current growth has almost made the planet uninhabitable. We need degrowth.

[-] riodoro1@lemmy.world 35 points 7 hours ago

Oh fuck, oh fuck, our ponzi scheme is about to enter the find out phase.

[-] Fisch@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 1 hour ago

Capitalism is totally different from a ponzi scheme. In a ponzi scheme, the profits go up to the person at the top and you always need new people that come in, otherwise the whole thing will fall apart and the people at the bottom will be the ones that suffer. Under capitalism however, the profits of everyone's work will go up to the top and you always need new workers to come in, otherwise the system will fall apart and the people at the bottom will suffer. Totally different.

[-] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 7 points 5 hours ago

Isn't the cost of living in Japan like extremely high, and work basically breaks your back for no overtime?

[-] potustheplant@feddit.nl 1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Afaik Japan is actually kind of cheap. About 1500 per month including rent in Tokyo if this is right.

The overtime thing depends on your actual job. It's not like literally everyone is being exploited.

[-] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 6 points 4 hours ago

Not cheap. That's how much a flat for one person costs in Zurich centre. You just have insanely high rents.

[-] potustheplant@feddit.nl 4 points 3 hours ago

I said "including" rent. The rent alone is about 560USD. I haven't lived in Zurich but I know for a fact that Basel is about twice as expensive.

[-] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 hours ago

Basel has insanely high rents too.

[-] potustheplant@feddit.nl 3 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Lose the "too" and you might be onto something.

[-] WalnutLum@lemmy.ml 90 points 15 hours ago

Daycare/Kindergarten is already free across the country for all children starting at 3 years old.

All child healthcare is also free after a prefecture-set monthly premium (usually about 1000 yen).

This policy announcement is specifically about making the 0-3 year old gap free.

Honestly I'd rather just see the government pay more into the shakai hoken (the national insurance that pays for mother/father leave) so people can take more time off from work early on in the kids' lives.

Making it easier for parents to go back to work instead of focusing what's good for children and parents seems par for the course.

[-] kinetic_donor@lemmy.zip 6 points 3 hours ago

Daycare/Kindergarten is already free across the country for all children starting at 3 years old.

My information might be biased towards the greater Kanto area (Tokyo/Yokohama), but I'm not aware of anybody paying less then 20000 Yen (a little over $100 USD I guess) per month per child for a place in a public daycare (can be more than double, depending on the area/daycare, and much more for private ones).

It's much more complicated, though. You can receive various support money from the state/prefecture/city, but it's usually less than what you have to pay. And you're not guaranteed a place, and the waiting list cam be long (especially in highly populated areas in Tokyo).

[-] WalnutLum@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

I'm not sure why your friends are paying that... Most cities in Saitama, Chiba, and the 23 wards at least I know that the 学費 was set as 無償化.

There are some instances where you don't qualify for free school if you make too much money. (Or it could just be they didn't have a good guide at the city office to walk them through the maze of beaurocracy)

Also 23 wards and most of the cities in Saitama and Chiba have daycare and kindergarten entry that's points based(the larger cities have more kids than daycare spots, which is my favorite bit of irony about the Japanese birthrate problems), the more points you have (points based on need, like are you a single mother, both parents working full time etc.)

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 10 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

The only solution is to make childcare paid i.e. every single person that has a child gets a stipend worth a full time job.

Because it is a full time job.

[-] Phen@lemmy.eco.br 124 points 18 hours ago

Why is it framed like it's something extreme?

[-] uranibaba@lemmy.world 14 points 8 hours ago

I read it as snark/sarcasm. Like they are adding something that already should be.

[-] BKXcY86CHs2k8Coz@sh.itjust.works 103 points 18 hours ago

Capitalism literally has failed the human race

[-] skeezix@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

Who wants to have kids in a place where you’re expected to work 18 hours a day?

[-] PunnyName@lemmy.world 51 points 17 hours ago

Always has.

[-] Skyrmir@lemmy.world 117 points 19 hours ago

Decent first step, but it's going to take an actual investment in making parenthood desirable.

[-] cRazi_man@lemm.ee 63 points 18 hours ago

Parenthood is already desirable. There's a biological drive and social conditioning to desire it for most people. The disincentives have just become overwhelming. Children take a hell of a lot of resources. Every aspect of modern society has drained all the time, money, energy, emotional resiliance, social support, etc that people need.

[-] lorty@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 hours ago

There are many other social factors that make parenthood undesirable in Japan that this does not address.

[-] anachronist@midwest.social 37 points 17 hours ago

Also the future is bleak in the poly-crisis.

[-] TheTetrapod@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

Did you watch the new Tom Nicholas video, by chance?

[-] TonyOstrich@lemmy.world 27 points 16 hours ago

I'm logically aware that's the case for other people, but I find it perplexing why often times. I was sterilized in my mid 20s, and I haven't ever regretted it.

[-] aoidenpa@lemmy.world 11 points 14 hours ago

Same. I suspect fomo. I experience that for other things but I never bought that kids thing.

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[-] Thorngraff_Ironbeard@hexbear.net 25 points 16 hours ago

Wait, so young people aren't having kids because... its insanely expensive to do so? I thought it was because they invented pronouns.

[-] deaf_fish@lemm.ee 2 points 2 hours ago

Hmm sarcastic or not sarcastic... This is a hard one. I'm going to guess sarcastic.

[-] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 1 points 36 minutes ago

Not good to make assumptions. Better to Downvote and report. Even if you guess right, some bigot may think it validates their hatred.

[-] lnxtx@feddit.nl 64 points 18 hours ago

Wait until they will discover affordable housing thing.

[-] kalleboo@lemmy.world 14 points 15 hours ago

Housing is pretty affordable in Japan since housing in Japan is not an investment, it depreciates like a car (only the land has value, the house ontop of it has literally negative value since it's assumed anyone will want to bulldoze it), and their lax zoning allows for continual densification to happen.

[-] Garibaldee@lemm.ee 29 points 17 hours ago

Wait until you find out it is normal to tip your landlord there

https://www.interlinkjapan.com/blog/renting/key-money

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[-] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 16 points 15 hours ago

Nice! really good direction. If this good results I hope more places follow suit.

[-] Sc00ter@lemm.ee 15 points 15 hours ago

Childcare is outrageous. Daycare for my two kids was more than my mortgage every month. Ive been counting down until they were eligible for public schools

[-] Evotech@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago

Damn, in Norway is not free, but both public and private kindergartens (1-6) are capped in terms of what they can bill for each month. Which is about 210usd

The rest is paid for though taxes obviously.

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