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[-] PyroNeurosis@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 1 day ago

These guys mastered pivoting. Next time I'm moving my sofa, I know who I'm gonna call.

[-] Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

With humans, you pay them to move your sofa with beer. With ants, they're happy picking up crumbs from the carpet.

The hard part is convincing them to leave afterwards.

[-] Deceptichum@quokk.au 55 points 2 days ago

I’ve always known ants were intelligent, but this is blowing my mind.

[-] xkbx@startrek.website 35 points 2 days ago

In my head, I was just thinking “a whole bunch of different ants brute-forcing it until it works isn’t intelligence.” Then I saw the video where they’re actively rotating it after it isn’t going in and realized, holy shit, I’d still be trying to push it.

[-] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 36 points 2 days ago

I’d post this to mildly interesting but this is way more than mildly interesting

[-] CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

Makes we wonder what the optimal group size is for human intelligence. Induvidually we can be consistently pretty smart, and in very large groups we're brazenly idiotic even when the group is composed entierly of induvidually smart people. Yet most important research these days requires a team, so there must be some (likely fairly small) optimal group size to optimize useful intelligence/person.

[-] lars@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 1 day ago

It is likely a number no greater than 150.

[-] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

I’d like to see a larger group of people doing this with extremely limited communication. Like if you had 100-200 people only allowed to push the shape with their mouse cursor in a web app. I have a feeling we’d end up with similar results to the ant time-lapse.

Basically like the collaborative canvas projects around April fools.

[-] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 day ago
[-] ghost_towels@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 day ago

Not gonna lie, they figured it out faster than me. Never going to look at ants the same.

[-] Gsus4@mander.xyz 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Amazing. "Something" is definitely aware of rotation, "fits"/shapes and taking a step back from a local minimum to move forward. Seeing them all done together is even more impressive. What else are "they" aware of and...how many do you need to have this team spatial awareness? 100?

[-] Big_Boss_77@lemmynsfw.com 13 points 2 days ago

What was the impetus that drove the ants to move it from one side to the other?

[-] Phoenix3875@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

From the article:

People attempted to solve the puzzle because they were instructed to, while ants were motivated to carry the load to the third chamber (which was open toward the nest) since the load was made to resemble food.

[-] Big_Boss_77@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 1 day ago

I missed the link to the article too... what I get for navigation lemmy under the influence of Christmas cheer. Thank you for the assist, neighbor.

[-] Dagamant@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago

Either it’s full of food or the entire nest is just that blank acrylic and they want to add it to their nest. Probably food though.

[-] Big_Boss_77@lemmynsfw.com 3 points 2 days ago

You know... I never thought about them having a nest off screen... I just assumed they were in a box.

[-] Pulptastic@midwest.social 4 points 1 day ago

How do you coerce ants to solve puzzles?

[-] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Make it smell like food

[-] FlorisJan@kbin.melroy.org 7 points 2 days ago
[-] CluckN@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

I didn’t know it but we did

[-] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 7 points 2 days ago

Love the videos of the humans solving the puzzle. Let's see an octopus next!

[-] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Isn’t this just brute force? Liek trying random directions until one works?

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