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I finally installed gentoo with xfce!!

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[-] SweetCitrusBuzz@beehaw.org 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

heck yeah, welcome fellow gentoo user!

Edit: Just in time for xfce 4.20 to become stable soon too!

[-] Steamymoomilk@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 month ago

Whats the compile times with intel celeron and 4gb of rams

[-] Zucca@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 month ago

4GB is barely enough. But you can limit the compilation threads to save memory. For big compilations you should reserve around 1.5GB per compilation thread.

As for celeron... You'd better use binary host, at least for big packages (or have your own binary host).

Here I have one old Chromebox for which I flashed coreboot into.

2024-03-13T09:59:14 >>> net-libs/nodejs-20.11.0: 3:36:15
2024-05-10T05:02:52 >>> net-libs/nodejs-20.12.1: 6:12:09
2024-10-01T00:25:35 >>> net-libs/nodejs-22.4.1-r1: 7:24:58
2024-12-26T01:43:48 >>> net-libs/nodejs-22.4.1-r1: 15:32:58

The three first lines show compilation times of nodejs with quite normal compilation settings. On the last line I enabled some ridiculous optimizations, like -funroll-loops and -fipa-pta but also -lto (which probably contributes the most of the compilation time increase). I've retired this box now, but I might give it a new life as some home automation box.

Obligatory fastfetch.

panther-box ~ # fastfetch --logo none
root@panther-box
----------------
OS: Gentoo 2.17 x86_64
Host: Panther (1.0)
Kernel: Linux 6.1.110-panther-0.3.1
Uptime: 36 days, 18 hours, 10 mins
Packages: 701 (emerge)
Shell: bash 5.2.37
Theme: Adwaita [GTK3]
Icons: gnome [GTK3]
Cursor: Adwaita
Terminal: tmux 3.4
CPU: Intel(R) Celeron(R) 2955U (2) @ 1.40 GHz
GPU: Intel Haswell-ULT Integrated Graphics Controller @ 1.00 GHz [Integrated]
Memory: 950.19 MiB / 15.50 GiB (6%)
Swap: 7.00 MiB / 20.00 GiB (0%)
Disk (/): 13.37 GiB / 14.94 GiB (90%) - xfs
Disk (/home): 133.21 MiB / 1.94 GiB (7%) - xfs
Disk (/var): 1.57 GiB / 1.94 GiB (81%) - xfs
Disk (/var/cache/pkg): 12.98 GiB / 19.94 GiB (65%) - xfs

... and because I had some 8GB DDR3 SODIMM RAM sticks I stuffed the maximum amount in there. If I was on 4GB, I'd use binhost or tune the compilation settings so that the process would use as little memory as possible.

[-] Steamymoomilk@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago

Homie UPTIME IS 36 DAYS?!?? what does this computer do???? ๐Ÿ’€๐Ÿ’€๐Ÿ’€๐Ÿ’€

[-] Zucca@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 month ago

It passes the network to my TV. Just sits there. Although I planned it to act as a "pi hole" for ad blocking.

Maybe some day...

[-] muhyb@programming.dev 5 points 1 month ago
[-] introvertcatto@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 month ago

It took me 6-8 hours to install. Started 12-13 ended in 19 hours.

[-] 1984@lemmy.today 8 points 1 month ago

Gentoo is fun but I wish it had actual advantages in speed also. Something to make it worth compiling all that stuff.

[-] zagaberoo@beehaw.org 6 points 1 month ago

Binary speed is really the least reason to do it. Whether it's worth it or not is up to the individual, but there are a lot of little reasons Gentoo is uniquely powerful.

Benefits specific to compiling:

  • fine-grained control of features and dependencies with USE flags
  • very easy package maintenance (writing ebuilds)
    • much simpler to add your own custom local packages when you need them
    • less workload on the gentoo team which is good for repository health and breadth
  • control of compile flags (yes speed, but more practically hardening for secure systems)
  • the same gentoo is available on way more platforms and architectures than any binary distro
[-] m4m4m4m4@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

I mean, it can be faster than your average distro on some scenarios. Mostly if you know your way in kernel config.

Though most of its real advantages are in the form of a lean system completely tailored to your needs.

It seems to me most of that Gentoo FUD comes from people that never even tried to install it or gave up because apparently reading a wiki is too hard for them.

[-] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Yeah, tools often have compiler-flags. For example, support for other software you have or don't want to have. It's the more simple alternative to autodetection during compile, like mpv does. For example, X11 vs. Wayland.

[-] original_reader@lemm.ee 5 points 1 month ago

Nice.

Where's the wallpaper from?

[-] noodles@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 month ago

Good job catto!, i wonder how long it took

[-] introvertcatto@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 month ago

Thanks, surpassingly, it didn't take long around 6-8 hours. I started at around 12-13 and ended at 19. I did kind of speed run installation and did as fast as possible. I first tried installing gnome or kde, but compiling was too long, so I decided xfce.

[-] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 month ago
[-] introvertcatto@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Yeah, battery broken, it's constantly on AC or DC idk I'm not electrician.

[-] Allero@lemmy.today 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

ะะก - in the outlet

DC - coming to your battery

The charger essentially alters voltage and also turns AC into DC (and provides extra resistance so you don't fry your laptop)

[-] Zucca@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 month ago

Welcome to Gentoo!

[-] Cris_Color@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Ay, congrats! I hear that's quite the challenge!

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