When looking for a job, do you choose quit smoking for months at a time, admit you are a medical user and hope for exception, use synthetic pee, or use a detox kit?? (lemmy.world)

submitted 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) by Smokeydope@lemmy.world to c/trees@lemmy.world

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I am in the job market and was wondering what your strategies are?

Honestly this has always been a serious source of stress for me. Pot is a true medicine to me that really helps with my particular issues. As both a chunky person and daily smoker its very hard for me to abstain for the ~two months needed. Even then its not gurenteed out of your system right?

So I always went with synthetic and its always a stressful day going in and hoping for the best somehow worrying I'll get caught and jailed. I hate it hate it hate it.

Now a days I hear that because medical is so normalized lots of companies either don't care or have policies for it. I hear stories on the internet of how people just straight admit in the interview and ask if its okay. Do any of you actually go for this strategy?

Detox never seemed right to me. Combination of snake oil marketing and flushing out your system really fast seems sketchy.

The way drug test are implemented has never seemed fair or put in place for a good reason beyond company insurance policy requiring it. Coke heads, alcoholics, pill poppers, shrooms munchers, cigarette smokers, none of them get shafted like us pot smokers do on the piss test. Its kind of unjust if it targets one demographic way harder than others.

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[-] IchNichtenLichten@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

If a prospective employer wants me to piss in a cup then that's a pretty big red flag that I'm not going to be a good fit for that culture. Trust works both ways. Also, it's just plain weird.

[-] Yokozuna@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

If you're serious about it, stop smoking when you start looking for a job. When/if you land the job feel it out for a few months and if you feel comfortable then start again. Taking a break every now and then is good for you, and if it's to better yourself for a job then all the better.

[-] riodoro1@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

I don’t live in a fucking dystopia where getting a mall clerk job requires you to pass a pot test. Jesus guys, how are you not revolting?

[-] pupbiru@aussie.zone 1 points 3 months ago

some are pretty revolting

[-] Jean_le_Flambeur@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 3 months ago

Your job is wants to collect your fkin Urine? That's a major invasion of privacy! I would not work at a company doing this.

[-] PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I live in Canada where this lunacy isn’t even a thought people have. Drug testing is ridiculous. Individuals who require secret level security clearance here don’t even get tested.

I have no answer for you so I’m sorry. I’m just mad you have to even consider any of this.

[-] Pandantic@midwest.social 3 points 3 months ago

This needs to go in the “Things Americans aren’t ready to hear” topic. 😭

[-] tamethecoach@lemmy.ca 0 points 3 months ago

Came here to say this. My first job was working as a contractor working with border services and required security clearance, the most I had to do was get my fingerprints done. The fact that someone looking for anything but very specialized jobs had to think about this is unimaginable to me.

[-] Pillagenplunder@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Quick fix from your closest head shop, follow the instructions. Has worked for me for the last 20 years, even specific gravity tests

[-] stinky@redlemmy.com 1 points 3 months ago

Wizenator

[-] Empricorn@feddit.nl 1 points 3 months ago

It's obviously dumb to require a drug test as a condition for employment. With that said, if you can't go a few weeks with partaking, you're now talking about addiction.

[-] cheers_queers@lemm.ee -2 points 3 months ago

easy to say if you don't live with debilitating pain i guess. going 3 months without the only thing that makes my life comfortable would be miserable. i COULD do it, but i don't want to be forced to because of some horse shit policy

[-] Smokeydope@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Thank you for saying this. I had similar thoughts when I read this when considering over my personal situation but was worried it was copium thinking. Glad I'm not the only one who thinks these kind of statements as un-nuanced.

Do people who think like this consider those with depression or severe ADHD or insomniacs who take their medication daily as evidence of addiction as well?

I can stop any time without symptoms of severe withdraw, but when I do stop my quality of life diminishes greatly due to the legitimate medical problems I suffer which the pot helps alleviate. Its MEDICINE with relatively few side affects compared to pharma shit.

Now when I smoked cigarettes and had severe body jitters and constant nicotine craving for weeks when I quit? Yeah, thats actual addiction.

Also just subjectively two to three months is not 'a few weeks'. 8-12 weeks is not a short amount of time. I shouldn't have to suffer significant fractions of a year just to jump through arbitrary hoops set by insurance companies.

[-] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

If the job is under the mistaken notion that an employee's off-time weed use has something to do with their employment, they can correct their mistake or hire a bitch.

[-] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 months ago

Yeah, I'd rather piss on them than piss in a cup for them.

Doesn't matter if I were actually using or not. It's none of their business.

[-] tomi000@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Live hack: living in a country where employers dont do that shit

[-] SplashJackson@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 months ago

What da fuck? None of the above.

[-] cmbabul@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

Detox kit. Always worked for me

[-] Smokeydope@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

Would you be comfortable giving some more information on the exact detox procedure and the kit used? Do you have to take niacin to make your pee yellow?

[-] deranger@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 months ago

Medical lab scientist here. There’s no such thing as a “detox kit”. All you’re doing is drinking enough water to dilute the sample. The detox kit may have vitamins or creatine to help beat tests commonly used to detect dilution, but there’s no “detoxing” occurring. It’s just dilution.

You can drink a lot of water, pop a B vitamin, maybe some creatine, and you’d be just as well off as a detox kit. Frankly unless it’s a high security type position I doubt they’re paying for extra testing for dilution. I recently did one at Quest diagnostics and all they cared about was the temperature.

[-] Smokeydope@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

Hey @deranger@sh.itjust.works thank you very much for the great reply. This is valuable information that took more than a moment of your time to write and I'm grateful.

[-] deranger@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Typically I’d recommend one of these two.

Lower risk of getting busted for adulteration: drink lots of water. I like to do a half gallon to gallon of water the day of the test. If you hydrate sooner (eg days before) you won’t need to drink as much the day of the test. Clear urine is good urine anyways, kidney stones are a bitch. If they actually care about dilution they’ll ask you to resubmit. Submitting dilute urine is not a failure, it’s just not a pass. Probably not even tested for unless you’re trying for a top secret job or something like that.

Lower risk of getting busted for dilution: use synthetic urine. Risk here is getting caught with the fake piss or being out of temperature range. Chemically speaking though this is the least risk. Synthetic pee is what they use to calibrate the analyzers and “dipstick”/drop of urine on a card style drug tests. It’s perfect in terms of fooling the analytical lab portion. I used this recently to pass a test and it worked great, but I was paranoid about the temperature (it was perfectly in range, though).

Detox kits are necessarily bullshit but it’s just a more expensive form of dilution and supplementation to beat dilution tests.

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