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Good guy clippy (lemmy.zip)

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[-] SurpriZe@lemm.ee 1 points 5 hours ago

Eh, not that bad

[-] Gladaed@feddit.org 13 points 16 hours ago

The checkbox should be grayed out.

[-] Maven@lemmy.zip 2 points 16 hours ago

But I want to always delete Electron Applications...

[-] darklamer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 14 hours ago

That's why the checkbox should be grayed out, so that you can't uncheck it.

[-] Maven@lemmy.zip 5 points 14 hours ago

OOOOOHH! I get it now!

I thought you meant grayed out so it couldn't be checked.

My bad. You're right.

[-] umbraroze@lemmy.world 22 points 18 hours ago

Yes

Yes, and also delete Electron

That, and also make me forget I ever even heard about Electron in the first place

[-] pyre@lemmy.world 7 points 17 hours ago

[-] serenissi@lemmy.world 10 points 21 hours ago

Any tech college kid can write an app in common frameworks. I'll admit llm code generators are great when they can translate electron apps to say tauri or even better to QT at reasonable cost :)

[-] flying_sheep@lemmy.ml 10 points 21 hours ago

Qt “cute” (the UI framework)
QT “cutie” (QuickTime the Apple media framework)

[-] Maven@lemmy.zip 8 points 14 hours ago

QT "cutie" (you 😊😳)

[-] pool_spray_098@lemmy.world 8 points 20 hours ago

Well that would be even more impressive.

[-] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 9 points 21 hours ago

KATE >>>>>>>>>>>>> VSCode

[-] serenissi@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

Yes, except container devel (need to use ssh).

[-] Pechente@feddit.org 142 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

For anyone considering Electron: take a look at Tauri. It’s another way to build cross-platform apps with web tech. It will use the OS‘s web rendering engine instead of shipping Chromium which results in much smaller binaries and faster startup times and less RAM usage. You can also write native code in Rust. It’s like Electron but good.

[-] OmegaLemmy@discuss.online 51 points 1 day ago

Bad for Linux at the moment...

That being said, it won't improve just by saying it's bad for Linux, if you work as a maintainer in a distro, or know a lot about Linux and rust to help their development then please reach out!!!

The sooner tauri is usable everywhere the more people will prefer it

[-] Ziglin@lemmy.world 6 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

Works fine for me on endeavourOS (Hyprland and i3).

What makes it bad for Linux?

[-] asdfasdfasdf@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago

First I've heard of this. What's wrong on Linux?

[-] OmegaLemmy@discuss.online 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Outdated theming and ~~several widgets(?)that aren't implemented~~ general instability such as random crashes, code not behaving similarly to Mac or Windows, slowdowns, missing packages in builds, a lot of window resizing issues and uh, fuck load of appimage issues

[-] Pechente@feddit.org 27 points 1 day ago

I didn't try out a Tauri app on linux yet, I just know that it's generally supported. What doesn't work (well) as of now?

[-] XpeeN@sopuli.xyz 1 points 18 hours ago

What about Flutter? It was pretty nice to work with

[-] Pechente@feddit.org 8 points 17 hours ago

The reason people use Electron in the first place is that they wanna share a codebase between web, desktop and possibly mobile.

While Flutter can technically do that, the web apps it outputs are atrocious with poor usability and accessibility. It’s drawing the whole UI on a canvas element which causes all kinds of issues.

[-] BorgDrone@lemmy.one 1 points 5 hours ago

they wanna share a codebase between web, desktop and possibly mobile.

That way you get an app that’s crap on every platform.

[-] XpeeN@sopuli.xyz 1 points 17 hours ago

Make sense, tnx

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[-] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 71 points 1 day ago

Electron apps are a crime against computing.

[-] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 5 points 21 hours ago

A crime commited by techbros of the early 2010's, who envisioned an end to desktop applications, and them being replaced by websites.

[-] szczuroarturo@programming.dev 6 points 18 hours ago

To be fair making native aplications was( maybe even still is , the last time i touched anything non abap related was in uni )very unnesecarily complex thing back then especialy compared to the simplicity of web frontend .

[-] aliser@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago

what's are the alternatives? I want ease of writing UIs js/CSS/HTML gives, especially with frameworks like svelte.

[-] riodoro1@lemmy.world 16 points 21 hours ago

A webpage.

[-] renzev@lemmy.world 11 points 21 hours ago

Or, get this, a PWA.

[-] Maven@lemmy.zip 22 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I'd highly recommend Tauri. It's much much much faster and you can use svelte for the front end and enjoy all of those benefits.

The "downside" is that all of the backend is written in rust which can be trouble to learn... (Downside is in quotes because rust is my favorite language and I would legally marry it if the law cared about the true meaning of love) However! If you don't care much about the backend stuff or most of that is gonna be simple anyway... Just use it. It's better in every way

Edit for context: I'm the lead developer of a "popular" (it's as popular as you can be as a niche tool for a niche community) open source project that uses Tauri with a svelte front end and rust in the back end.

[-] Brahvim@lemmy.kde.social 2 points 21 hours ago

There's also a Golang alternative that does not have 6 GiB build folders like Tauri / Tauri 2.

(Tauri generates like 3 MiB binaries. It's the build folders that are huge. Also stay ready to compile huge Rust packages!)

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[-] mlg@lemmy.world 35 points 1 day ago

I think VSCode is the only stable electron application and even then it took them like 5 years to reach passable stability lol.

Used to crash and combust all the time when I first tried it.

[-] kshade@lemmy.world 8 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

Etcher seems stable! But it's also a well over 100 MB download for a disk image writer. Rufus does more in less than 1% of the download size and also has a GUI.

[-] Croquette@sh.itjust.works 5 points 19 hours ago

Never realized that Etcher was an Electron app and it makes a lot of sense.

[-] mlg@lemmy.world 2 points 16 hours ago

Yeah that crashed for me across several versions too lol.

Latest works, but I have like 5 different ones saved because I think 1.16-1.18 wouldn't complete writing to disk.

[-] fossilesque@mander.xyz 1 points 18 hours ago

Tabby terminal :)

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[-] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 21 points 1 day ago

HTML5 applications goddamn well ought to be first-class programs, as a totally platform-agnostic realization of Turing completeness.

Instead you get every application bundled with its own whole-ass operating system and virtual machine. For a fucking webpage. Yep! No other way to run that on a modern computer!