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submitted 1 year ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/news@lemmy.world

Summary

Several U.S. states have enacted laws requiring pornography sites, such as PornHub, to implement age verification to prevent minors' access, prompting the site’s parent company, Aylo, to block access in affected states.

Proponents argue these laws protect children, while critics highlight privacy risks, inefficiencies, and potential censorship.

These measures reflect growing social conservatism, with some advocates aiming to restrict adult content broadly.

While privacy-focused age verification methods exist, regulatory clarity is lacking.

Critics warn these laws may suppress responsible platforms, favoring unregulated alternatives, and escalate broader culture wars around sexuality and LGBTQ+ rights.

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[-] serenissi@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

There's no reliable way to verify age without extensive face verification with liveliness checks. A child can easily upload a parent's or some other adult's id card photo to get 'verified'. Also nothing stops kids to explore porn corners of social media (including lemmy) and thousands of porn sites operated not by the Big Porn. Porn is fundamental to internet.

Edit: I purposefully omitted vpn, that being the most trivial solution.

That's all besides the point however.

If a young kid is motivated by highschool seniors to watch porn, it is s parenting issue. If some adult encourages some child to watch porn as a grooming technique that's a much more serious case of child abuse. If a teenager is porn addict and doesn't do anything else, it is a major mental health concern, not a porn concern itself.

It is kind of accepted fact that many late teenagers are familiar with porn and explore it like any other sexual aspects of their life. Whether that's harmful is upto debate but teenagers/adults do many things harmful everyday and banning everything with law isn't realistic either. It is not end of the world if a teenager has sex or watches a porn movie. Children have greater dangers in general where they get abused by their relatives, teachers and even by their own parents and are continuously attempted to be programmed not to critically think by the religions.

[-] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Often on 1337x I find nsfw stuff. I wonder if there are people torrenting this stuff

[-] Donkter@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

The most surprising thing to me is that PornHub is owned by a multinational Canada based private equity firm Aylo. I guess surprising might not be the right word, maybe morbidly reassuring that no one escapes from the slimy hands of late capitalism.

[-] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago

Yeah, let's get back to small business "mom and pop" pornography vendors!

[-] 21Cabbage@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 1 year ago

Wasn't really a pornhub guy, think xvideos does the suggestions better and overall I'm more into pics as far as that goes but pissing off my home state gets brownie points off of me anyway.

[-] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

We miss you, Larry Flynt. (Not really, he sucked in other ways a great deal, but he at least fought the good fight in this domain)

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I loved it when he decided to get revenge on Republicans prosecuting Clinton for getting a blowjob by publishing and distributing a single-issue magazine filled with detailed information about prominent congressmen and their mistresses.

Like you said, he was a piece of shit in a lot of ways, but he did a few things I will happily remember him for.

[-] aceshigh@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I’m curious what this graph looks like compared to states with legal weed.

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[-] MetalMachine@feddit.nl -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm gonna be honest, I think it is good to restrict to make sure its not so easy to access for kids. Also, I think porn just demeans women and pushes that they're just a piece of meat.

A conversation can be had about if the way the restriction was done was good or bad or if it can be done in a better way.

[-] undefined@lemmy.hogru.ch -1 points 1 year ago

You’re kind of missing the point entirely. We already know that the current methods used to verify age aren’t privacy-respecting and only serve to block legitimate use.

[-] TheDemonBuer@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago

Several U.S. states have enacted laws requiring pornography sites, such as PornHub, to implement age verification to prevent minors' access

Doesn't seem too unreasonable. When I buy alcohol I have to provide verification that I'm over 21.

The thing is, how do they enforce it? People in those states can still access pornhub through a VPN. Plus, what about all the other many, many porn sites?

I get what they're trying to do, but I think there are some logistics that haven't really been thought out.

[-] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

But that's just it, they have thought about the logistics. We already have Meta changing their rules to allow LGBTQ + people to be called "mentally ill" with no repercussions.

The Great Firewall of China isn't an accident, it's actually how internet hardware like routers and switches are built to work from the ground up, with security like access control lists, as well as logging connections and seeing what data goes where and so on. That's the scary thing about the internet, it just takes people wanting to turn it into a draconian nightmare to flip a few switches. I mean, really, the US already has but it just feels like it less because of the release valve of "free speech." The NSA Utah datacenter has been around for a while now.

They have thought about the logistics, and they want to bring those kind of controls here. As always the plan is to control what happens online. Musk has definitely made some weird and creepy comments about "making lists" and while he's an idiot, he's got the tools and people to make it happen.

They couch it in a reasonable position to start the path to blocking access to content about sexuality for anyone. When youre a queer kid growing up and being told that it's just the devil's work and other bullshit the internet and being able to talk about your experience was the first freeing thing you could do in your life. It also lead to women having higher standards because women could communicate more and not be isolated by their male partners controlling behavior. Conservatives fucking hate that. This kind of ban could ban that kind of speech online, and I firmly believe it's intended to.

[-] rc__buggy@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago

They expect the porn provider to verify age/id through very invasive and onerous means. It is in no way reasonable or secure to give some random porn site a copy of your government ID. They will get hacked; not if, when.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago

They will get hacked; not if, when.

Not only that, it turns any site that doesn't just outright block the age verification states into a massive target.

[-] SaltySalamander@fedia.io -1 points 1 year ago

When I buy alcohol I have to provide verification that I'm over 21

I was unaware that porn could kill you.

[-] lath@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Not your fault. Nobody can be aware of everything.

And yes, people have fapped to porn until they had a heart attack and died due to it.

[-] SaltySalamander@fedia.io 0 points 1 year ago
[-] lath@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
[-] SaltySalamander@fedia.io 1 points 1 year ago

In other words, could have happened whether he was masturbating or having sex. Wasn't the masturbation that caused it, was the orgasm. I guess we're just not supposed to orgasm now?

Regardless, porn wasn't mentioned anywhere in that article.

Also...

The study authors say that they found just two other cases of masturbation-linked strokes in other scientific literature.

A whole two cases (three counting the linked one). Doesn't really seem like an epidemic now, does it? Considering legit every boy does it, and the ones that deny it are likely lying.

[-] lath@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

However unlikely, it can nonetheless happen.

Regardless, porn wasn’t mentioned anywhere in that article.

Now that's just quibbling. Porn is generally used for the purpose of masturbation.

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