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submitted 4 days ago by Blisterexe@lemmy.zip to c/linux@lemmy.ml

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.zip/post/26986197

Wayland and audio is fixed, but only on the canary branch for the moment, this isnt lazy either, they changed the whole screenshare flow to suit linux's permission prompts

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[-] kyub@discuss.tchncs.de 26 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Well, "nice" to have that feature, but you still shouldn't use Discord, or at least limit your time on it as much as possible. Remember, when you use it, you're part of the network effect that makes Discord big. You have to resist that. Take a look how Discord compares to pretty much any other messenger or communication tool in existence: https://www.messenger-matrix.de/messenger-matrix-en.html Avoid it whenever possible, get your friends to leave it and weaken its network effect.

So, some of the drawbacks (there's probably more):

  • Discord has weak security (see URL above)
  • Discord has non-existent privacy
  • Discord has an incredibly vague privacy policy which means they do what they want. Even companies with strong privacy policies screw users over routinely. Guess what companies do who don't even care about good privacy policies. They even weakened it further a while back because they need to train their new AI features on your data as well, and probably even their weak privacy policies were in the way before. Well, good thing that the users agreed that they can change it at any time for any reason and be fine with it.
  • You grant all rights of everything you write, say, share or do on Discord to Discord, and everything you type, say, upload or share is being processed by their servers
  • Discord tracks what you're typing before sending it
  • Discord suspended accounts and required even more user data for "verification", such as telephone numbers which is completely unnecessary except for tracking and data selling purposes
  • Discord shares chat logs with law enforcement (and they can share everything because they're collecting everything)
  • The Discord client app tracks what programs you have running so it can for example display what games you're currently running. That means it contains a process logger. It has to scan every running application and then finds games out of those, and then you have to hope that only the game-specific bits are uploaded to their servers. Maybe that is the case, but can you trust them, and also to never change that? No.

If you have to use it:

  • Never use their desktop app, always use the web version from a secondary browser (web apps running in the browser have much less rights than locally running applications), and even then limit what the site can access to the least amount of stuff necessary. If you never use your mic or camera then block it in the browser settings. Don't trust Discord's own mute setting (this also applies to other proprietary software).
  • Use a fake e-mail alias / telephone number when creating your account, generally give them the least amount of data possible. Opt out of any options or features which are tied to you exposing more data to them
  • Don't give them additional money e.g. for their premium stuff (you already pay with data they gather from you)
  • Block at least these API endpoints which are purely used for tracking purposes (there may be more though, and they might change) [easy to do with uBlock Origin for example]:
https://discord.com/api/v*/science
https://discord.com/api/v*/channels/*/typing
https://discord.com/api/v*/track*
  • You can also block these related hosts safely without impairing Discord's main functions (again there may be more):
crash.discordapp.com
status.discordapp.com
b.stats.paypal.com
app.adjust.com
client-analytics.braintreegateway.com
[-] Blisterexe@lemmy.zip 68 points 4 days ago

Note that the flathub version has not yet been updated. The version with the screenshare is 0.0.79.

[-] real_username56@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 days ago

Oh ok that explains why it wasn’t working very well

[-] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 28 points 4 days ago

Fuck discord. Proprietary spyware. That shit isn't getting on my computer anytime ever.

[-] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 12 points 4 days ago

FYI, Element now has a lot of the call features that Discord has

[-] lord_ryvan@ttrpg.network 8 points 4 days ago

Including screen share with audio?

[-] communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

tbh if you're on linux there's kind of an easy workaround

pactl load-module module-combine-sink sink_name='Stream' slaves='easyeffects_sink'

^^ I have this aliased as "gamesound"

easyeffects is great for this because it'll just be the default sink, plus easyeffects makes your mic sound good anyway. (if you configure it for that)

then when the game opens i set it to output to "stream" and bam i can output game audio in a stream without capturing anything else, since i'm on hyprland i can also stream just the window, discord screenshare with audio everywhere.

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[-] x00z@lemmy.world 25 points 4 days ago

I've been using Vesktop since forever. They have had it working already for a looooong time.

[-] sixdripb@lemmy.world 32 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

people on reddit are saying audio-sharing is still broken for every app that utilizes the pipewire audio API directly

[-] Link@rentadrunk.org 13 points 4 days ago

Which programs use the pipewire API? I can only think of mumble but no one is going to stream that.

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[-] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

Wow finally! Congrats Discord dev team, this is good

[-] penquin@lemm.ee 28 points 4 days ago
[-] highduc@lemmy.ml 18 points 4 days ago

Whish Steam would put some effort into this too.

[-] john89@lemmy.ca 9 points 4 days ago

Try using OBS with its virtual camera.

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[-] TypicalHog@lemm.ee 8 points 3 days ago

I just wish there was a FOSS version of Discord. I haven't looked too deeply into existing alternatives, but I have a feeling they all miss features Discord has and are just not as good.

[-] eneff@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 day ago

Spacebar looks promising IMO.

[-] jherazob@beehaw.org 6 points 3 days ago

Revolt, can be self-hosted and all, not federated

[-] Blisterexe@lemmy.zip 9 points 3 days ago

[matrix] looks promising, but it isn't quite ready yet

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[-] Zangoose@lemmy.world 16 points 4 days ago

Can we get actually working global keybinds in Wayland next? Or is that a chromium/electron problem?

[-] Blisterexe@lemmy.zip 22 points 4 days ago

wayland global keybinds are not really ready yet, they're only properly implemented in one desktop, so i don't blame the discord devs for not adding them.

[-] communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 12 points 4 days ago

Hyprland and kwin I think.

The hyprland dev is doing a ridiculous amount of work.

[-] arisunz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 4 days ago

Surprised he finds time to work on anything after spending so much of it being a complete dipshit online or falsely pinning his own bugs on other projects. Good for him.

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[-] Zamundaaa@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 4 days ago

It's an Electron problem, yes. The API is there, just waiting to be used.

[-] thingsiplay@beehaw.org 16 points 4 days ago

Serious question: I see the topic about Discord screen sharing a lot. Why is this such a big deal?

[-] Blisterexe@lemmy.zip 67 points 4 days ago

because it's the communications platform for gamers™.

But seriously discord screenshare was a massive painpoint for gamers switching to linux, so it's very nice to see it finally, properly, solved.

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[-] teawrecks@sopuli.xyz 27 points 4 days ago

Aside from it being a main way that I spend time with friends, it's good to see mainstream products spend effort supporting Linux as a viable gaming platform. I have friends who haven't made the jump to Linux yet, but giving up core discord functionality was simply a dealbreaker for them.

[-] bogpunk@lemmy.ca 31 points 4 days ago

people like to share their screens with friends. generally so they can stream a game for them to watch or so people can watch stuff together

[-] jonesy@aussie.zone 7 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Screen sharing is a big social thing for my friends and I, lacking this functionality would mean I wouldn't be able to interact as much sharing goofy game moments and watching movies together.

I tried Vencord for a while, but my friends said that the quality of the stream on their end was consistently stuttering, an issue which isn't happening for me in the official client, so the release of screen sharing on Discord stable after working so well on canary is a welcome update for me.

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