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[-] br3d@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

A midsized college football stadium might hold about 70,000 people. Imagine going onto the loudspeaker and announcing "Seven hundred and fifty-three of the people here today are going to die in a car crash. Enjoy the game"

[-] slaacaa@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

How perfectly normal

[-] Albbi@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 month ago

Not sure how Motorcyclist is different from Motor-vehicle crash.

Crazy that it's more dangerous to be a pedestrian than a Motorcyclist. Are the pedestrian deaths not being counted as a motor-vehicle crash? I doubt that many people are dying from two pedestrians running into each other.

[-] CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

I'd guess it's because they aren't saying "all motorcyclists have a 1 in 722 chance of dying riding a motorcycle" they are saying "1 in 722 Americans will die in a motorcycle crash" while completely disregarding that only (making this number up) 80 of those 722 ever even rode motorcycles in the first place.

In other words, pedestrian deaths simply outnumber fatal motorcycle accidents because there are a lot more pedestrians than motorcyclists.

[-] Mechanite@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

What are the chances I will die of a motor vehicle crash outside of my lifetime?

[-] halfapage@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago
[-] kitnaht@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Which is still lower than the chance that you'll commit suicide. Or just simply die from a fall...or just from catching COVID.

So yeah. Pretty safe.

[-] brotundspiele@feddit.org 16 points 1 month ago

In Germany in comparison the chances to die in any traffic accident (car or no car) is 1 in 351. So year. Pretty much safer.

TIL There's a category in the German death statistics named "Resulting from the insertion of a foreign object into a natural body opening." And I'm only mildly disturbed. That killed 775 People in 2023 btw.

[-] CuddlyCassowary@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Does the insertion category include choking, or just…other things…?

[-] pc486@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago

Since you brought it up, let's dive into the numbers as presented[1]. The top all-cause is heat disease. A disease that's preventable by moderate exercise (e.g. walking, biking, playing baseball, anything really) and avoiding common legal drugs (tobacco and alcohol being most implicated, but also most available).

Next up, cancer. Also a general class of disease that has many causes, but has also been shown that moderate exercise reduces cancer risk.

COVID and respiratory disease? Preventive measures like vaccines and, again, moderate exercise also reduce this risk. Oh, and cars are a factor in this category (long-term inhaling tailpipe emissions will make your lungs unhealthy).

Opioid overdose (1:55)? Suicide (1:87)? That's somewhat self explanatory to fix, but good medical care and moderate exercise again helps.

Guns? That's all cases of guns. Homicide (1:219) and suicide (1:159) by guns must be rolled up to get to the 1:89 figure. Homicide is a big issue to untangle, like suicide. That said, homicide has been linked to car infrastructure depressing local economies and as a tool in segregating black communities into unfit areas away from economically viable white ones.

Then we're finally down to falls (1:92) and cars (1:93).

What can we take away from this? If you're trying to reduce risk, go for a walk or ride a bike regularly. It'll help you avoid heart disease, improve odds against respiratory diseases, and is a good tool for upping your mental health game. No need to trust me. I'm a dog with a keyboard. Talk to your doctor about it. You may be surprised how effective reducing drinking, stopping smoking, and going out for a walk every day can do.

Whoops, my bad. Pedestrian "incidents" (ran over by car) is the next cause (1:468). Cycling isn't too far behind (1:3,162). Maybe we should continue to drive overhead bad parts of town, inhale our neighbor's car fumes, and enjoy our near-guaranteed death by heart attack and choking.

[1] In the OP's data source. It's a good source, but it is US biased and biased in NHTSA's reporting (e.g. person in hospital from a car, but died >30 days later? That's natural causes.).

[-] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 month ago

Curious if the 1:3162 figure for bicycle deaths is significantly higher in the US than other nations. I guess that depends on whether or not people who die on bikes tend to be hit by cars.

[-] workerONE@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

I wonder what are the odds for someone over 30 who has driving experience and training?

I ask because for motorcycles the first and second year riders make up most of the deaths

[-] SplashJackson@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 month ago

Either you die, or you don't. That's a 50% chance! So, if you're feeling lucky, there's no way you can lose!

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