If anyone wants to neatly summarize this drama in a few sentences, that would be much appreciated. I don't have time to read this essay or watch multiple 45 minute videos on GN.
LTT is a shitheel, repeatedly.
LTT gets called out for being a shitheel by different people.
LTT Cries about being a victim of the big mean critics, specifically targeting GN (despite other critics)
LTT fans get big mad at GN for criticizing dear leader, while completely ignoring every other critic (Just like LTT wanted)
LTT successfully, amongst his cultists, frame it as "GN Big Mean at LTT, y u no be fren?" in desperate attempt to make someone other than LTT look like the bad guy.. and fails.
Living up to your name... Could only be more accurate if you were TechJesusCultist. Everyone involved here are socially inept, self absorbed, wannabe journalists and not a single party here have a good track record for ethical journalism historically. Anyone here for journalistic integrity is barking up the wrong tree. They should both shut the fuck up and go back to making their money and getting free tech products for the reviews they put out and stop with this YouTube drama bullshit.
The article outlines a dispute between two tech content creators. One party accuses the other of plagiarism, spreading misinformation, and being unprofessional, while the accused defends themselves by claiming miscommunication and unfair treatment. Both sides present evidence to back their claims, but it boils down to a messy argument over ethics, accuracy, and accountability in online tech media.
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Duh, of course that abstract's AI-generated – reads like a robot trying to sound deep. You really think I'd waste energy on this low-effort drama nonsense? Already tired of seeing Captain Cartoon-Face's cringey avatar plastered everywhere. Now? Couldn't care less if it spontaneously combusted.
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why is there 0 response on the honey and billet labs thing, which is part of that same wan show? what's with this half done response, why not show all the receipts? and also, why does he bring up a threat of legal action when there was no actual threat of legal action if you see that wan show?
this is such a disappointment, I'm apparently meant to watch as these two adults constantly miscommunicate, misunderstand and ignore half of what the other has said online, and stretch the back and forth even longer than it needs to. This will take like 5 wan shows and gn articles to conclude properly
Yeah I’ve come to the conclusion that anyone whose main job is creating “content” is a piece of shit.
But some have Jesusier hair than others, and as such my own allegiance has been destined without say.
Edit: FR the deciding factor was the 70 dollar screwdriver along with the "trust me bro" warranty. He's a scumbag. His "media group" primarily produces entertainment clips with no value. I get some informative content from GN in comparison.
Every warranty is a "trust me bro" warranty, that was his point from the start. Have you ever actually read warranty terms?
Every warranty is a “trust me bro” warranty
Try that shit here in Brazil and your company is paying some fines you could not have dreamed of. And guess what, the customer would get their warranty regardless of your desire.
Again I ask you, have you ever read warranty terms?
Notice how I said brazilian law, yet you're pretending the logic in your country would apply.
A company could write any warranty terms they wanted - hell, they could write a clause claiming "I hate laws and I'm willingly subjecting myself to the terms of this manufacturer, no takesies-backsies" and guess what, I'd still be protected by the lawful warranty process.
A company can set their own terms for additional warranties they might want to offer as part of their marketing, with some restrictions still. But for the legal minimum? No warranty terms in the world could violate them.
If Brazilian law offers such good consumer protections by default, then that just further proves the point that a written policy isn't necessary
Of course it is, because the point isn't whether or not they could deny doing the bare minimum - they can't.
The point is companies like LTT use a "extended warranty!", "lifetime warranty!", "never have a headache with our products in your life!" as part of their marketing, so they make these claims to change how the customer will evaluate their purchase... yet they try to get away with having undefined terms, because this way, they can actually deny the promised lifetime warranty for whatever random bullshit they come up with.
Both situations are protected in Brazilian law. Certainly the bare minimum doesn't have to be written, the law does so for you already, but any claims of further protections need to be written and can't be changed after the fact.
Just finished reading. In summary: everyone loses here.
Linus made some silly but understandable mistakes, had some very poor word choices in private communications, and got Steve on the defensive by publicly mentioning he didn't want to sue but implied he could. LMG is also (in the youtube world) a large company and is likely always working on process improvements, and the improvement Steve seems to want to happen that they are definitely lacking in, is to update old content with corrections or omissions.
Steve poorly or never communicated what he thought were satisfactory resolutions to past comments or incidents and is upset that those resolutions didn't happen, and is only escalating the situation further by softly threatening legal action, while also hinting that they have way more evidence they are just conveniently leaving out despite their current evidence being mostly empty (specifically receipts 1 and 2).
They both run very different channels with different focuses and staff sizes and production values, and each has made mistakes. None of this spat should have been public, but it seems both parties are just bad at communicating with one another and it has only escalated due to LMG actually publicly responding to public allegations by GN.
If I had to declare a winner so far, Steve is looking worse for wear to me given the poor examples provided as receipts and the continued threat of legal escalation, but again - everyone loses here. Everyone looks worse and this should have been handled privately. Maybe LMG should appoint someone other than Linus to handle fellow media contacts, because it doesn't seem like he's the best for that job.
Steve poorly or never communicated what he thought were satisfactory resolutions to past comments or incidents and is upset that those resolutions didn't happen.
Steve very clearly says he would be happy with being attributed in a pinned comment on the video in question. Linus agreed to do that, then... didn't do that. Steve is justified in being upset with the lack of action here, he isn't Linus's dad, he shouldn't have to ask more than once for such a simple request.
and is only escalating the situation further by softly threatening legal action
If someone with as much money as LMG threatens legal action against you, it's prudent to lawyer up and prepare a case/countersuit.
while also hinting that they have way more evidence they are just conveniently leaving out
Because when you're preparing a legal case, it's generally a good idea to not give your opponents all the materials you're building your case with.
despite their current evidence being mostly empty (specifically receipts 1 and 2)
How are those examples empty? They may not be very extreme examples, but they clearly illustrate the type of behavior GN is claiming LMG engages in.
None of this spat should have been public
I can agree with you there.
If I had to declare a winner so far, Steve is looking worse for wear
Lol you lost me again
Everyone looks worse and this should have been handled privately. Maybe LMG should appoint someone other than Linus to handle fellow media contacts, because it doesn't seem like he's the best for that job.
Motherfucker pulled me right back in lmao
At least to respond to the first segment here, the pinned comment on the VOD does attribute their GN's reporting for the segment. It does exactly what Linus said he would do in communication with Steve.
Does the pinned comment do a great job? Absolutely not, but it does what Steve agreed to, and he should have spoken up sooner if he didn't like it.
They didn't attribute on the clips channel cut, and I wouldn't be surprised if this is the result of poor internal communication at LMG (likely by Linus since he likely handled the request on the VOD) to remember to include that attribution in that upload. Again, it would have been good if Steve let them know about it and asked for them to be more careful in the future. Its hard for a large group of people to be organized in that way and reminders are helpful. To bring it up years later in a legal threat is poor form, even if he is technically in the right.
To add onto my last comment though, I like watching the content from both of these creators and will continue to do so. My interpretation is neither is evil nor bad, but that there has been a series of poor communication and differing standards and expectations between them.
LTT needs to treat Linus like SpaceX treats Musk.
built a wall of yesmen around him to agree to everything he says, and executes none of it.
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