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[-] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 23 points 20 hours ago

People: please do not carry an AK. Just get an AR. ARs have interchangeable parts, ammunition is cheap, and aside from Bear Creek Arsenal, they're going to just work. AKs require significant hand fitting and there's no single standard, ammunition prices have risen sharply since the cheap milsurp ammo flow got cut off, and at the cheaper end they tend to be dangerous to the user. Yes, I know that AKs have a reputation got working in adverse conditions, but that reputation dates to the Vietnam war, when the AR was a new platform; modern ARs are far, far more reliable and accurate than an AK.

You can still get an AK for fun, but don't don't treat it like your serious gun.

[-] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 13 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

I have a buddy who did gun repairs, he fucking hates AR-15s. If you want a gun that ticks all the boxes, get a 12 gauge shotgun. It's a cheap, widely available platform that has cheap and widely available ammo, it just fucking works, it's easy to care for, easy to use, pretty standard maintenance, and will kill what you need it to. They're lethal much further out than video games imply, because otherwise they'd completely wreck the balance of the game.

Edit: I asked him for his specific beef with ARs, this was his response.

They're a bitch to clean. There's lots of places that need to be cleaned that can't be reached easily, tons of little pockets and grooves you can't get into; requires a dental pick, star shaped cleaning patches, and a shit load of cotton swabs to get through.
If it's locked up, you can't knock on the charging handle or emergency kick the charging handle to clear it. You will not be able to field strip this rifle if it's jammed out of battery.
Aluminum gas blocks are apparently very popular, and they will corrode to failure at the gas tube port.
The extractor pin will often shatter in place, which causes intermittent failure while not looking wrong unless you know what you're looking for.

[-] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 3 points 14 hours ago

If you want a gun that ticks all the boxes, get a 12 gauge shotgun

Disagree.

First, ammo starts at a minimum of 44cpr for 00 buck. Second, unless you get mag fed shotguns--which have their own problems--you're getting a maximum of about 7 rounds. Third, if you're talking about pump guns, it's pretty easy to short stroke one in a high-stress situation. Gas guns are a different matter, but they're pickier about ammo. Fourth--again, unless you have a mag fed shotgun--reloading is not nearly as quick and easy as it is with any firearm with a magazine.

If it’s locked up, you can’t knock on the charging handle or emergency kick the charging handle to clear it.

You mortar them; that usually gets it. I've had to do that a few times.

Yeah, a detail strip and clean is a bastard. But you don't really need to do those very often. A field strip and clean is sufficient most of the time.

[-] modus@lemmy.world 7 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

They're a bitch to clean.

No they're not. They tear down easily without tools. I can't think of a part that can't be cleaned easily. Maybe the gas tube?

If it's locked up, you can't knock on the charging handle

There's a button called a forward assist for that specific purpose.

Aluminum gas blocks...

Milspec blocks are not aluminum, he's complaining about after-market, non-standard mods.

The extractor pin will often shatter in place,

I've seen this on cheap BCGs. It's annoying, but it's easily fixable and won't render the gun useless. You'll just have to manually clear it.

[-] frezik@midwest.social 2 points 14 hours ago

No they’re not. They tear down easily without tools. I can’t think of a part that can’t be cleaned easily. Maybe the gas tube?

I would guess they're talking about a very complete cleaning? But that's kinda true of any gun. Basic cleaning of an AR15 is not that complicated.

There’s a button called a forward assist for that specific purpose.

Eeeehhhh, never press that button. It's a joke the Army played on itself.

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[-] mipadaitu@lemmy.world 2 points 15 hours ago

While you did answer the question, it is better to clear a jam by pulling back on the charging handle, possibly while also mortoring the buttstock. Hitting the forward assist is just as likely to make the jam worse. (This also counts for AKs, this isn't an AR only thing)

Some newer ARs don't come with forward assists anymore, sometimes to prevent people from making jams worse, but usually cause they're for sport and if your rifle malfunctions in a way that needs a forward assist, you can just take the L and get off the range to solve the issue.

Regardless, if you hit the forward assist, just make sure you're in a position that this might be the last round you can fire without doing some maintenance.

But you are correct, ARs are as popular as they are for a reason. They're reliable, easy to get parts for, and ammo (while expensive) is just about everywhere.

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[-] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 3 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

Thanks for the context. I was never interested in owning an AR myself, not to mention that it seems to me like they're way overpriced due to a lot of them being glam guns. He did it for a living for years, so I took him at his word.

[-] frezik@midwest.social 3 points 14 hours ago

That's where AR15s shine. You can build one pretty cheap and it's workable. Cheaper than any AK you can buy in the US.

If you want all the tacticool glam bling, you can do that, but it's excellent the without all that crap.

[-] modus@lemmy.world 5 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

No problem. As an owner of a fully-custom glam gun, I recommend building a shitty one first to learn what breaks and what doesn't.

[-] Zink@programming.dev 4 points 16 hours ago

If you want a gun that ticks all the boxes, get a 12 gauge shotgun. It's a cheap, widely available platform that has cheap and widely available ammo, it just fucking works, it's easy to care for, easy to use, pretty standard maintenance, and will kill what you need it to. They're lethal much further out than video games imply, because otherwise they'd completely wreck the balance of the game.

Yeah, with a 12 gauge shell of 00 buckshot, every pull of the trigger is almost like mag dumping a 9mm handgun in that direction. Very destructive very quickly at indoor distances, a little bit of wiggle room with the aiming m, and less risk of overpenetration than something like a rifle or a big caliber handgun.

A 12 gauge pump shotgun is actually the only firearm in my house(in the US), and I got it over 30 years ago. I kind of want to get a 9mm handgun, but it doesn’t feel like an immediate need given the shotgun.

[-] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 6 points 18 hours ago

Your buddy may have an unfounded bias against them, as AR-15's are in general extremely reliable, and don't require much maintainence or cleaning for the most part, especially since most people don't practice all that much.

A shotgun is a great choice for defense though, and often is a better choice than an AR.

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[-] CancerMancer@sh.itjust.works 8 points 20 hours ago

I understand some people might look away from the AR-15 because it's the gun everyone has which takes away from the cool factor, or maybe you just dislike its connotation due to high use among right-wing folk, but this person speaks the truth.

AR-15s are common because they work. Customizations and spare parts are cheap, effective, and widely available. So are good magazines, which are typically a shockingly difficult part to design well and the place where many otherwise decent guns fail. .223 Remington has one of most varied supplies of ammunition on the market, beaten only by things like 12 gauge.

Don't buy weird shit until you own one of these (or at least a pump-action 12 gauge ffs).

[-] GrumpyDuckling@sh.itjust.works 3 points 18 hours ago

Nobody cared about the ar-15 unyil it got banned snd then unbanned.

[-] shalafi@lemmy.world 3 points 16 hours ago

No lie! They've been available to civilians since the 60s. They weren't popular because they're not the best in any particular class. But they're easy and don't kick.

[-] mipadaitu@lemmy.world 2 points 15 hours ago

Sure, but also wheelguns were also considered more reliable and better than semi autos at the time.

AR ban expiration came around the same time as people were getting more used to gucci guns and mods.

There were a lot of other guns that got unbanned at the same time. The AR platform just happened to be ready for a resurgence right around the time that the expiration.

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[-] FPSXpert@discuss.online 1 points 12 hours ago

I completely agree with everything except the bit about Bear Creek, I can't talk shit when my 300blk upper from them runs well 😂

I mean, nobody wants to admit that they ~~ate 9 cans of ravioli~~ own a BCA, but I do and it's actually been surprisingly nice.

Okay memes aside, if buying BCA/PSA tier bottom bin parts know how to inspect them and make sure that they're good quality. With any firearm purchase actually give it a good look over, clean and prep it, know how to do little things like sanding down a feed ramp with a little bit of time and sandpaper (youtube is great for this). Don't just buy something planning to just shove it in the closet and not do any sort of work or prep or testing it at the range because if you do that, it's going to be a lot worse if you need it to work and it doesn't :)

[-] BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world 6 points 20 hours ago

Plus ARs are cheaper.

[-] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 6 points 20 hours ago

That too.

I think that I originally paid about $550 for my S&W M&P 15 Sport 2 (although not many parts are original anymore); you can get a perfectly serviceable Palmetto State Armory AR-15 for $450. An AK is likely going to start at around $700.

As someone much more clever than I said, the real transgender AK is the AR that's chambered in7.62x39mm.

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[-] 4shtonButcher@discuss.tchncs.de 20 points 20 hours ago

Ugh. I still hate guns. Guns kill people and the US obsession with them will never make sense to me.

But at this point it's probably good that it's not only the supporters if the lunatic fascist oligarchy that are armed. It hurts to admit, but I'd rather see a Nazi shot dead than a decent human being. Heck, if I were in the US I might learn how to shoot a gun at this point.

[-] FreakinSteve@lemmy.world 8 points 17 hours ago

I hate spatulas but the fact remains that eggs have to be turned

[-] ubergeek@lemmy.today 3 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

I hate guns too.

I own them, and train with them because it's useful to have them ready when needed.

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[-] FreakinSteve@lemmy.world 8 points 17 hours ago

Its time to make good on those death threats Chaya keeps getting

[-] random@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 14 hours ago

I'm probably gonna make my nag22 trans themed, tho I have to buy a new printer and wait for the parts to arrive

[-] ubergeek@lemmy.today 6 points 16 hours ago

Sweet. Sounds based. Let's do more of this.

[-] Freefall@lemmy.world 18 points 21 hours ago

Hey, an actual good person with a gun!

[-] Whateley@lemm.ee 12 points 20 hours ago

I'd be armed if my wife wasn't so leery about firearms. She and my father-in-law are part of a ethnic minority that is specifically targeted by white supremacists and my state has active Nazi and Third Position groups. Given the way shit's going, I want to be prepared for anything.

[-] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 18 points 20 hours ago

The only things that ever slowed the Nazis down was Russian winters and getting shot, and we're all out of Russian winters.

[-] TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works 8 points 19 hours ago

you should have a discussion about it, see if her views have changed since the election.
Shits scary outside right now, wishing you the best of health ❤️

[-] selson@lemm.ee 13 points 21 hours ago

FUCK YES!! Arm the fuck up. The rights not correct about much but a good guy with a gun can indeed stop a bad guy with a gun

[-] archomrade@midwest.social 6 points 19 hours ago

I love the irony here but this is 100% meant to bait counter protestors with guns to show up to the next one, especially in Wisconsin, and especially with the current administration that has no problem holding a double-standard (liberal protestors with guns are dangerous, conservative protestors with guns are patriots).

Leftists don't have the same privilege as white conservatives do walking around with an open carry. I hope anyone bringing their firearm to a protest understands the risks involved and is ready/willing to use it if things escalate.

[-] Saleh@feddit.org 7 points 18 hours ago

Is it meant to bait counter protestors or is it in anticipation of armed counter protestors to show up to the first one already?

At the end of the day it doesnt matter that much. If there is someone starting to shoot at the crowd, being in a crowd is bad. Being completely defenseless in a crowd is worse.

[-] archomrade@midwest.social 6 points 16 hours ago

Nono, i mean LoT posting this picture, not the protestor carrying the gun

Everything that account does is stochastic terrorism

[-] Rozauhtuno@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 22 hours ago

Based.

[-] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 142 points 1 day ago

Honestly it’s good for the MAGA crowd to see that normal people in America are armed too. They see themselves as wolves among sheep, while the masses are armed only with their useless empathy and critical thinking skills.

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[-] DogWater@lemmy.world 49 points 1 day ago

GOOD. UNIRONICALLY.

this is what we need. Parity. Like guns or not, you need them at this point or you're just going to be under the boot without ever having the tools you needed to fight back.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 20 hours ago

Incredibly based

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