107
submitted 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) by voytek709@lemmy.ca to c/nostupidquestions@lemmy.world

Not everyone thinks this, but I know an extreme right-winger who thinks this. He is also a conspiracy theorist who thinks non-white people are out to get white people so, yeah, odd.

Not every immigrant is illegal or bad. I know a girl who didn't speak English for 3 years when her family legally immigrated, so of course she's been told this.

(page 2) 25 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[-] TheBigMike@lemm.ee 1 points 2 weeks ago

That's just bad logic saying that all Americans all are immigrants. It implies that land is bound by blood and every modern immigrant everwhere would never be integrated into society, since they weren't the original people there. Every society that has migrated would also receive this immigrant label, like the Hungarians and Bulgarians. There comes a point where the people who conquer lands become the people living there and not just immigrants.

These kinds of bad gotchas aren't proving anything unless you seriously think they are only going for immigrants. They are racists. They use the term immigrant to refer to non-white people.

[-] LadyMeow@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 3 weeks ago

Where’s the meme of someone holding the box and inside is one word? Racism

load more comments (1 replies)
[-] Sanctus@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

Because they're stupid, bigoted cunts. I IT in construction (somehow still, whew thats another story) and I talk to these troglodytes on a daily basis. The minute one of these homunculus shambles in and has a minute to flap their lip skins racist ass, stupid ass shit flows out. Meanwhile, every gentleman that is of Mexican descent can at least hold their cool, or outright flipoff the trump cutout my boss has up in our office. Not saying they aren't imperfect humans either, but for some fucken reason white dudes can't help but drop the mask to other white dudes. All I gotta do is have one Trump trinket near me to work magic on anyone conversing with me. The trick is, a lot of the immigrant dudes didnt start flipping Trump off until he actually began this deportation shit. Even when he was saying he'd do it they were saying he'd fix stuff. Its a people thing man idk. Education in the western hemisphere is just utterly failing most. If you aren't a knowledge seeker, if you dont have the tools to combat propaganda and falsehoods, and sometimes even if you do, this place will eat you.

[-] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

Because they’re stupid, bigoted cunts.

I feel like you could have said just this. Not saying the rest of your post is invalid in anyway. I'm just saying that first sentence sums it up completely.

[-] ickplant@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

You’re right, but the rest of his post is pure poetry. I wish I could be eloquent that way.

[-] ronflex@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

I think it's as simple as this: people need an enemy, some person or group they feel is against them. Conservatives get off on having a victim complex, and will straight up make shit up against their opposition just to make themselves look like a helpless little child. "Oh no, what am I gonna do? Me or my granddaughter needs a job and I heard in the news they're all being taken up by immigrants" meanwhile, the same person is being fed this information from the comfort of their couch.

"The immigrants are taking our jobs" is a sentiment that I have seen at least in my part of the country go down in the last several years and im in a very conservative area. Simple fact is immigrant workers work cheaper and faster than others and they often do better work, people are realizing that.

[-] atro_city@fedia.io 1 points 3 weeks ago

Remember, everyone is a hypocrite. The USA is a melting pot of so many different peoples with about 250 years of history as a nation. My working theory is that has led to a nation-wide identity crisis: who and what am I. They are intensely occupied with their origins because the only people who have been on the continent for millennia (Native Americans) were brutally reduced and are the only ones who know their roots with higher certainty.
It's why many USAians will gladly call themselves "Italian", "Indonesian", or "African" without ever having set a foot in that country/continent, knowing next to nothing about it, being unable to speak or even identity a language from there, nor locate it on the map.

Factor in their education system, "winner takes all" vote counting system which leads to tribalism, and media influence, human inability to think long term, and you end up with a large swathe of people who cannot reason logically about these things.

[-] ThomasCrappersGhost@feddit.uk 1 points 3 weeks ago

They are both from those countries and completely USA people. Bit baffling really.

[-] gwilikers@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 weeks ago

There was a 19th century political party that rose in opposition to the arrival of Irish Catholic immigrants. They had the audacity to call themselves the Native American Party. Also, known as the Know Nothings. They're the gang that Bill the Butcher (Daniel Day Lewis) leads in Gangs of New York.

[-] thezeesystem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 3 weeks ago

American fascism doesn't care what's true or what's right. It cares only to kill and enslave people who are "undesirable"

[-] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

For some reason it seems like human nature to treat everybody in a recognizable group like they're the same person, and that person is either good or bad depending on your background and attitudes - immigrants, trans people, cops, boomers, tech nerds, hot women, republicans, democrats, musicians... there are probably stereotypes you have broad opinions about which you will spend all day defending/rationalizing because a) "it's true" and/or b) "I'm not bigoted!" We're all bigots, just do it in different ways. And no, that's not a defense for any particular bigotry or saying they're all equal.

[-] dustyData@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

The White House made it so that all inmigrants are criminals by default because they entered the country illegally. Turning innocent until proven guilty on its head. Now everyone is guilty by association.

[-] sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 weeks ago

Well, they aren't talking about the huge number of "illegals" who are here on expired visas because that would mean a lot of white people would get rounded up in this bullshit.

[-] drahardja@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

Because people here are racists, yet not clever.

[-] Opinionhaver@feddit.uk 0 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

It's inherent feature of human reasoning across the board. Everyone does broad generalizations about other people based on more or less unrelated information about them. Just yesterday someone here was getting upvoted for implying people driving lifted trucks are racists. It's the same logic at work there. It's othering. Us vs. them and so on. It may have been useful when we still lived in tribes but doesn't quite work with how society is today.

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 weeks ago

White conspiracy theorists know they stole this land and are terrified that what goes around, comes around.

[-] dan1101@lemm.ee 0 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah we better start coming up with some paperwork that our great great grandparents were legal. At this point I'd be pretty happy to be deported to Germany.

load more comments (1 replies)
[-] SloppyPuppy@lemmy.world -1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I dont think they assume all immigrants are illegal. They talk about illegal immigrants. As in those that entered clandestinely without visa or entering permit or those that have their visa / permit expired. Correct me if im wrong.

[-] dan1101@lemm.ee 1 points 2 weeks ago

No it's the brown ones. They wouldn't look twice at a pale person like Musk.

load more comments
view more: ‹ prev next ›
this post was submitted on 02 Feb 2025
107 points (95.0% liked)

No Stupid Questions

37462 readers
202 users here now

No such thing. Ask away!

!nostupidquestions is a community dedicated to being helpful and answering each others' questions on various topics.

The rules for posting and commenting, besides the rules defined here for lemmy.world, are as follows:

Rules (interactive)


Rule 1- All posts must be legitimate questions. All post titles must include a question.

All posts must be legitimate questions, and all post titles must include a question. Questions that are joke or trolling questions, memes, song lyrics as title, etc. are not allowed here. See Rule 6 for all exceptions.



Rule 2- Your question subject cannot be illegal or NSFW material.

Your question subject cannot be illegal or NSFW material. You will be warned first, banned second.



Rule 3- Do not seek mental, medical and professional help here.

Do not seek mental, medical and professional help here. Breaking this rule will not get you or your post removed, but it will put you at risk, and possibly in danger.



Rule 4- No self promotion or upvote-farming of any kind.

That's it.



Rule 5- No baiting or sealioning or promoting an agenda.

Questions which, instead of being of an innocuous nature, are specifically intended (based on reports and in the opinion of our crack moderation team) to bait users into ideological wars on charged political topics will be removed and the authors warned - or banned - depending on severity.



Rule 6- Regarding META posts and joke questions.

Provided it is about the community itself, you may post non-question posts using the [META] tag on your post title.

On fridays, you are allowed to post meme and troll questions, on the condition that it's in text format only, and conforms with our other rules. These posts MUST include the [NSQ Friday] tag in their title.

If you post a serious question on friday and are looking only for legitimate answers, then please include the [Serious] tag on your post. Irrelevant replies will then be removed by moderators.



Rule 7- You can't intentionally annoy, mock, or harass other members.

If you intentionally annoy, mock, harass, or discriminate against any individual member, you will be removed.

Likewise, if you are a member, sympathiser or a resemblant of a movement that is known to largely hate, mock, discriminate against, and/or want to take lives of a group of people, and you were provably vocal about your hate, then you will be banned on sight.



Rule 8- All comments should try to stay relevant to their parent content.



Rule 9- Reposts from other platforms are not allowed.

Let everyone have their own content.



Rule 10- Majority of bots aren't allowed to participate here.



Credits

Our breathtaking icon was bestowed upon us by @Cevilia!

The greatest banner of all time: by @TheOneWithTheHair!

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS