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submitted 4 days ago by Hozerkiller@lemmy.ca to c/linux@lemmy.ml

Any recommendations for a linux distro that i can set up and be reasonably sure my non techy SO won't break accidentally? The set up doesn't have to be easy it just has to not break once I leave her alone with it. My first thought was popOS.

My plan is to have 2 profiles and not give her access to sudo. I just don't want to have to go into it unless she needs a new program.

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[-] EarlGrey@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 day ago

Fedora Silverblue.

Or really any immutable OS; they would have to go way out of their way to even edit system files, much less break the system. I just recommend Silverblue because gnome is really hard for an inexperienced user to break.

[-] absGeekNZ@lemmy.nz 12 points 2 days ago

Mint.

I have my mum (67) and my partner using it.

Libre office and Firefox cover 99.9% of all the things mum actually does.

My partner uses blender, krita and audacity also.

Auto updates... Almost no tech support.

[-] Dark_Dragon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 days ago

Linux mint makes sense. Auto updates and its hastle free for non techy person like me.

Even if I'm doing something crazy , chatgpt to the rescue.

[-] gnuplusmatt@reddthat.com 7 points 2 days ago

Any of the ostree variants of Fedora, be they Fedora Official or downstream ones like the Universal Blue family

[-] pH3ra@lemmy.ml 12 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Since less techy people tend to use more the mouse/touchpad anyways, I would pick a hard-to-mess-with desktop environment like Cinnamon or Gnome. With KDE, XFCE and such you can screw panels really easily if you don't know what you're doing.
Slap Debian under it and there you go

[-] dogsoahC@lemm.ee 2 points 2 days ago

Semi-serious suggestion: Guix or NixOS. They're not break-safe per se, but if they do break something, you can use the OS' previous generations to go back to an operational state. Just... don't let them use the commands that delete older generations.

(Semi-serious because they're both not exactly mainstream and not eactly conventional in their setup.)

[-] balsoft@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago

Yep, NixOS as a base + some Flatpak store for installing apps. In fact, use impermanence to just drop all OS state apart from logs, network settings and flatpaks. That way, "turn it off and then on again" will almost always work to fix the OS.

[-] lonesomeCat@lemmy.ml 11 points 3 days ago

Any immutable distro would do I guess

[-] Allero@lemmy.today 5 points 2 days ago

That is, if you have experience running immutable distros yourself and are able to serve as a tech support for them should they ever need it.

A lot is different under the hood, and general Linux knowledge doesn't always help.

[-] enumerator4829@sh.itjust.works 16 points 3 days ago

I’m gonna be the boring guy.

RedHat Enterprise Linux. (Or Rocky)

Most boring distro ever. Install it, turn on all the auto updates and be happy. Install something to take backups. Ignore any new major-releases, that laptop will die before the OS hits EOL.

Benefits:

  • Boring. It’s their tool, not your plaything.
  • Actually works
  • Will be reasonably secure over time with minimal effort and manual intervention.
  • If any commercial Linux software is required, it will most likely only be supported on RHEL or Ubuntu.
  • Provides web browser and word-processing. And we don’t need anything else.

Drawbacks:

  • Boring (for you)
  • Not ideal for gaming

If you install anything else than RHEL-derivatives or possibly Ubuntu on a machine that someone else will use, you are both in for a world of pain. It has to ”just work” without intervention by you, and it needs to keep working that way for the next 5 years.

Source: Professionally deploying and supporting multiuser desktop Linux to a few thousand users other than myself.

[-] LeFantome@programming.dev 4 points 3 days ago

In the era of Flatpak, I kind of agree with you.

The primary drawback is the complete lack of packages. A home user is going to want something not included and then things fall apart. Flatpaks and Distrobox have made that a lot better.

If you could get away with a RHEL core and Flatpak for apps, you would have a pretty solid setup for a “normal” person.

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[-] Duckytoast@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago

I've installed popOS to a couple of relatives, haven't had anty issues for a year so far. Can definately recommend!

[-] JASN_DE@lemmy.world 52 points 4 days ago

Fedora Atomic desktops, specifically Kinoite with KDE6 works well for me, and is basically unbreakable due to the way it works.

[-] oaklandnative@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I vote the same, but I'd suggest a uBlue spin of the Fedora Atomic desktops. They have better defaults (all batteries included, as they say) and are easier to use overall IMHO. Bluefin and Bazzite are both great options, and both offer KDE and Gnome variants.

https://universal-blue.org/

Edit: TIL the KDE version of Bluefin is called Aurora.

BTW, uBlue is getting some big recognition lately. They have been on the Fedora Podcast (official) and Framework Laptops has official instructions on their website for installing Bluefin and Bazzite.

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[-] deadcream@sopuli.xyz 5 points 3 days ago

Fedora is a bit too eager to deliver new updates IMO, especially KDE. As much as I love KDE, their .0 releases have had serious bugs several times in a row now. It's always better to wait for .1 patch with Plasma. It may be hard for the user to break Kinoite, but it won't save them from bugs.

Fedora's mission have always been to push new stuff when it's "mostly ready" at the cost of inconveniencing of some users, so I wouldn't recommend it for non-tech-savvy people.

I know people say that it's 100% stable for them (as they do for Arch, Tumbleweed, Debian Sid, etc) but that's survirorship bias. As any bleeding edge distro, Fedora has its periods of stability that are broken by tumultuous transitions to the new and shiny tech (like it was with Pipewire, Wayland default, major DE upgrades, etc). During these times some people's setup will break and you don't know ahead of time if it will be yours.

[-] asap@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Pick one of the stable channels from Universal Blue. You get the Fedora atomic goodness, but "ready" rather than "mostly ready".

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[-] penquin@lemm.ee 37 points 4 days ago

I've set up Linux mint for my sister in law and didn't hear from her the whole two years she was in college. But nowadays we have immutable distros. They're fantastic for a set it and forget it kinda thing. They're solid for those who don't want things to break.

[-] lilith267@lemmy.blahaj.zone 38 points 4 days ago

Linux mint is a good, "click first" distro that won't break without root + will be easy for her to use. For something with a more modern desktop and more recent updates, Bazzite is really good at just working and (in my experience) has never broken

[-] Hozerkiller@lemmy.ca 11 points 4 days ago

Bazzite might be what i go for the more i look at it. Thanks

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[-] Allero@lemmy.today 1 points 2 days ago

For me, Mint borked the network after an update. I never got to figure what was wrong - the local network worked, the Internet connection was there and other devices worked through the same router, remote IPs were unreachable so it's not a DNS problem, etc.

But I might have had an edge case.

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[-] warmaster@lemmy.world 23 points 4 days ago

Aurora by Universal Blue. She will be unable to break it, and it's so freaking easy to use and install.

[-] Allero@lemmy.today 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Depends on the use case. For example, I actually managed to bork Aurora to the unbootable state while trying to make a VPN work properly a while ago. It didn't live long :D

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[-] just_another_person@lemmy.world 32 points 4 days ago

Any of them. Just don't give the root password.

[-] ClipperDefiance@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago

This is what I do with my mom and her boyfriend. I've had them on Linux for a few years now and neither have managed to break anything.

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[-] downhomechunk@midwest.social 6 points 3 days ago

I've got my wife and 5 year old on slackware. They wouldn't know how to screw it up if they wanted to!

[-] Allero@lemmy.today 1 points 2 days ago

Now that's an extreme choice :D

Doing a lot of tech support, don't you?

[-] downhomechunk@midwest.social 1 points 6 hours ago

Nope! Everything just works and it's rock solid. It's also been my daily driver for over 20 years.

I was doing a lot of tech support when my wife was on endeavouros and my daughter was on bazzite. Tbf, my problems with bazzite were probably down to me not understanding the immutable distro concept.

[-] AnnaFrankfurter@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

If you're not going to give her sudo access then I'd say it'll be really hard maybe even impossible to screw up. Also maybe setup a cron job that'll do auto updates and if needed add in a check to make sure it isn't uninstalling anything. Also how about immutable distro.

[-] visnudeva@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 days ago
[-] Allero@lemmy.today 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Or Aurora/Kinoite, for a more familiar experience

[-] maplebar@lemmy.world 14 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Use Bluefin or some other immutable/atomic distro.

The upside is that it's rock solid and will likely never fail in a way that cant be easily rolled back. The downside being that it's slightly more complex to administer than a traditional distro model (which probably isn't a big problem if you are going to be administering your SO's PC for the most part.)

Bluefin is basically a more general desktop, less gaming-focused version of Bazzite. Bluefin uses Gnome, but there's also a KDE Plasma version called Aurora.

[-] SpatchyIsOnline@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

I recently set up Fedora Kinoite on my dad's laptop for him and he seems very happy with it. Kinoite is the atomic/immutable version with KDE Plasma by default. Once I'd set up a couple of things everything else he needs can be installed with flatpak (just make sure to set Flathub as the default and disable the Fedora flatpaks repo that ships broken packages all the time)

[-] kittenroar@beehaw.org 12 points 4 days ago

An immutable distro would be a good choice. They are distros designed to be more resilient against failure. For a gamer, bazzite is a solid choice; otherwise, silverblue.

[-] inzen@lemmy.world 10 points 4 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I guess it depends what she does on her pc.

But ignoring that, Mint without sudo. Throw in flatpaks and appimages.

Immutable distros are probably fine too but in my experience they tend to be a bit fussy if you need to change something in the system config.

Ubuntu, always a solid choice for beginners but Gnome shell is a bigger change from windows conpared to Cinamon.

P.S. I have Mint on our TV PC and my SO handdles it without issues.

[-] rescue_toaster@lemm.ee 6 points 3 days ago

I switched from ubuntu to debian when 12 was released and it's been fine. Only thing i was worried about was running WoW via lutris but had no issues.

So when my SO windows pc died we bought some newish parts and i installed debian on it as well. Also installed chrome since that's her browser of choice. She's still getting used to gnome, but all she needs is browser, WoW, and libreoffice, which is close enough that it hasnt been an issue. She doesn't even know how to update the system.

[-] Allero@lemmy.today 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

If she wants a familiar experience and ease of switching, why not consider KDE or Cinnamon? Both are officially available within Debian.

[-] Telorand@reddthat.com 9 points 4 days ago

Aurora or Bluefin would be great, general purpose distros. They're based on Fedora Kinoite and Silverblue, respectively, so you get that atomic unbreakability with the addition of some handy software and easy, optional scripts via ujust.

I have Bazzite on a laptop specifically for this reason, so if I ever kick the bucket early, they will have a reliable and portable computer.

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[-] Gayhitler@lemmy.ml 8 points 4 days ago

Does she want this?

If so then just set her up exactly what you have so you can easily help when there’s a problem.

If not then get her the computer she actually wants.

[-] Hozerkiller@lemmy.ca 10 points 4 days ago

It's a no money and cant run windows 11 situation.

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